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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:05 am
by beeg
JPG40504 wrote:BTW, what temp does aluminum melt at?:eek::D
It's melting point is 1221°.
Smokey is here!
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:27 pm
by ChrisNeilan
The Mark VII came while I was away in Florida. I should be bothered by that as fedex said they would hold it till Wednesday (but I'm not!). A lot of soot, but the plastic wrap around the cardboard crate showed no signs of heat exposure at all. Got it home and took it apart so I could get it into the basement. So far only had a chance to install the casters from my old Mark V. Everything looks good so far. Had a call from Shopsmith this morning checking on how things were going and what to do if there was any concealed damage. I liked that, shows good concern for the customer. Will post more later.

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:55 am
by Fred Grover
Thanks Ed. I must have missed this post reply. I just wish they were closer and somewhere in Iowa as those locations are a long drive for me. Maybe Shopsmith will make it into Iowa one of these days. I appreciate that link.
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:04 pm
by joshh
ChrisNeilan wrote:The Mark VII came while I was away in Florida. I should be bothered by that as fedex said they would hold it till Wednesday (but I'm not!). A lot of soot, but the plastic wrap around the cardboard crate showed no signs of heat exposure at all. Got it home and took it apart so I could get it into the basement. So far only had a chance to install the casters from my old Mark V. Everything looks good so far. Had a call from Shopsmith this morning checking on how things were going and what to do if there was any concealed damage. I liked that, shows good concern for the customer. Will post more later.

I'm glad you finally got your new powerpro! I agree with the posters above about having serious discussions (IN WRITING) with shopsmith.
Personally I would ask for a completely different unit or at least doubling the warranty period.
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:20 pm
by ChrisNeilan
I had a good talk with a Mr. Powell at Shopsmith, one of the designers of the Power Pro. Got off the phone feeling very very good about things. As I said in an earlier post, there was absolutely no heat or water damage to the unit. Even the books showed no curling of the paper. Not even an odor of smoke. The unit was so well packed in it's crate that I sincerely believe that you could have dropped this thing from ten feet onto cement and it would have survived!!! Now the dust collector, we'll see. I think it's OK. That was obviously nearer to the fire. It was a "freebie" from the show promotion.
I will say, the people at Shopsmith have been very good about this. I own a small business and can say from my own experiences what customer service can do to keep a customer!
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:29 pm
by JPG
ChrisNeilan wrote:I had a good talk with a Mr. Powell at Shopsmith, one of the designers of the Power Pro. Got off the phone feeling very very good about things. As I said in an earlier post, there was absolutely no heat or water damage to the unit. Even the books showed no curling of the paper. Not even an odor of smoke. The unit was so well packed in it's crate that I sincerely believe that you could have dropped this thing from ten feet onto cement and it would have survived!!! Now the dust collector, we'll see. I think it's OK. That was obviously nearer to the fire. It was a "freebie" from the show promotion.
I will say, the people at Shopsmith have been very good about this. I own a small business and can say from my own experiences what customer service can do to keep a customer!
And from a small business owner's perspective, how effective are nasty grams?;)
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:02 pm
by ChrisNeilan
My nastygram was actually quite mild.

I have only received a very few nasties,( my family business is in it's 90th year), but when responded to quickly all turned out well. You usually learn from them. Usually, but not always! Now it's time to go make some sawdust! I probably should read at least a little of the instruction manual first to be safe...

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:51 pm
by ChrisNeilan
Turned it on, cut a board. Wow! Quite, smooth, just like at the show, only better! The only thing I miss is a dado insert. I thought it came with one, but maybe not. Or, maybe I have not found it yet.... With all this tooling I have to ask myself why not just make the insert?
All happy!:)
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:28 pm
by JPG
ChrisNeilan wrote:Turned it on, cut a board. Wow! Quite, smooth, just like at the show, only better! The only thing I miss is a dado insert. I thought it came with one, but maybe not. Or, maybe I have not found it yet.... With all this tooling I have to ask myself why not just make the insert?
All happy!:)
I do not think it is 'missing', just not included(like batteries:D).
A good 'project'!
Do enjoy!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:54 pm
by benush26
The other insert that comes standard with the M7 is the shaper insert. Because you get the double tilt option, they include some pieces (insert, safety, etc.) to help you use that setup.
If you go to the Shopsmith site, there is a picture of everything that comes standard with the M7. I used that picture to verify (and explain) what I received.
Though I do have a SS dado insert, I will make ZCIs of a few widths that will be common for projects, especially those using plywood.
Be well,
Ben