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Reflective Heater

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:46 am
by JPG
Put a small fan near heater to move some air around it. Reflective is alright if you are trying to warm people who can feel it, but they are not very effective at warming up the atmosphere.

i.e. Radiant OK for people, Forced air better for heating shop!:D

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:03 am
by charlese
I've tried my ceramic hot air heater. It seem when the warm air comes in contact with the cold mass of the shop it cools quickly. In this area of low humidities, air will warm and cool quickly.

When in Montana (for many years) we had mechanic shops heated with natural gas heaters. That is until one guy hooked up his shop with a couple of celing mounted reflective heaters. This heater warmed the mass of the shop (machinery, walls and floor) first. The result was the shop became a lot more comfortable than those with the gas heaters causing hot, dry air and cold machines.

Other shops then began converting to infra-red reflective units. They also saved money doing this.

Of course this was during very cool weather.

Cold Iron

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:39 am
by JPG
Yes radiant heat will also warm the 'machinery' as well as the operators. It works well in places such as warehouses which would be prohibitive to 'heat'.

So perhaps you are better with radiant heater, but don't complain about the air temp! I would think rafter mounted radiant heat would be needed to be really effective.

Whatever Works is Good!:) :)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:24 pm
by pinkiewerewolf
We used the infrared heaters at one of the firehouses in Bloomington and they worked great in the apparatus bay. Very pricy though... amazing what you can buy with the tax payers money.;)

My Dad spent thousands on on infrared heating system for his insulated machine shop on the farm and he is totally unsatisfied with it. He spends a great amount of his time in the shop as it is where he works on his tractors and farm machinery.

He wants to put in another wood heater since he was happy with that until insurance made him take it out through threatening higher insurance rates.
This time I think he wants to get a brick mason and put in a proper chimney.
I won't even tell you what he was using for a chimney before, it worked but was so far from being up to code.

Machine Shed Heat

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:30 pm
by JPG
[quote="My Dad spent thousands on on infrared heating system for his insulated machine shop on the farm and he is totally unsatisfied with it. He spends a great amount of his time in the shop as it is where he works on his tractors and farm machinery.

He wants to put in another wood heater since he was happy with that until insurance made him take it out through threatening higher insurance rates.
This time I think he wants to get a brick mason and put in a proper chimney.
I won't even tell you what he was using for a chimney before, it worked but was so far from being up to code.[/QUOTE"]

Maybe he needs a "Flueless Cornburning furnace"!.:D Just kidding about the 'flueless part'.:p

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:49 pm
by pinkiewerewolf
Years ago when the price of corn was under $2 a bushel he was considering it. LOL

I looked at some of those at the time and they were very well thought out, heavy construction and best of all, separate from the unit you were heating, be it a house or a shop... they ran an insulated duct to the area to be heated.

We are pricing tankless water heaters and I notice that Bosch's bigger units are made to be installed on the outside of the home/building. I'm thinking of going this route to make more room for the kitchen remodel since the old tank unit is in a closet in the kitchen. More storage/cabinet space that way then.

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:51 pm
by ryanbp01
Don't overlook the oil-filled radiant heater! I can keep both my train/ hobby room and workshop quite comfortable. Also, don't forget insulating the workshop. You don't want heat loss to the outside. It will keep you cooler in the warmer weather too!

BPR

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:55 pm
by pinkiewerewolf
I definitely need to insulate the garage but that will come after the rewire that is badly needed.:o

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:46 pm
by shydragon
I saw this in the current issue of Popular Woodworking. Any opinions on this one, other than price?

http://www.sunheat.com/products/sunheat-infrared-portable-heaters

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:35 pm
by curiousgeorge
I saw this in the current issue of Popular Woodworking. Any opinions on this one, other than price?

http://www.sunheat.com/products/sunh...rtable-heaters
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Pat
I have one like that in my living room and unless you work in a closet... forget it. SHMBO keeps it pointed at her feet and that's about all it's good for. Not near worth the cost for just a foot warmer.