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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:13 am
by dusty
jimsjinx wrote:During the "Bed from Hell" project, I had to make 12 perfect dead nuts accurate tennons to fit my mortises. I tend to cut them first, then pare the holes to fit snug. I have never found a miter guage that was dead on. It, for me, depends on the way one pushes the work THROUGH the cut. I always keep the pressure on the miter guage in the same direction, ie, towards or away from the blade, as I push the material through the cut. I have seen aplenty of guys complain that thier guage,"never cuts straight". While observing them making a cut, I could see them concentrating more on the foreward movement of the work, more than keeping the guage pushed tight in the miter slot, right or left. Then, when you check the cut, it wanders off the intended cut a tiny bit. For a tennon, this could mean a gap at the top or bottom of the assembled joint. I used the Ridgid table saw to cut them, using the incuded miter guage, and the tennons were right on. jimsjinx
Two counterpoints:

Using the V120 you do not need to push the miter right/left to maintain accuracy. The miter bar fits snuggly in the miter track.

The face of the miter is as accurate as I believe is fair to demand of any miter gauge designed for us in wood working. If you need it positioned differently than the preset notches, you can shim it to your owe level of perfection ( I don't think that will be necessary ).

When doing cross cuts that need to be precise (on longer than about 12" pieces) I install a fence onto the miter fence and "CLAMP" the stock being cut. I no longer have the strength in my fingers to hold the stock firm enough to achieve the precise accuracy that you seem to seek.

I cut the mortises first and then cut tenons to fit.

Same when mortising - I use clamps.

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:17 pm
by fjimp
dusty wrote:Ypu can get the parts required to make the V120 compatible to the Mark V table from Incra but why. Isn't it cheaper to buy a Shopsmith version V120 from Incra or Shopsmith. The bar that you need is PV12-700150 and sells for $22.95.

You won't have the Safety Grip bit I believe that can be ordered from Shopsmith. There are a couple parts, not shown in the Incra IPB, required to mount the Safety Grip on the V120. Customer Service should be able to do this for you.

FWIW: I hardly ever use the SS Miter on the Mark V anymore. They have been reassigned to the Belt Sanding and Router Table.
One of my V120's is totally complete and purchased from Shopsmith. The other shopsmith compatible. Shopsmith will sell me the safety grip bit not the fitting required to mount it. I love my V120 and was thinking today I will likely go ahead and buy a second one soon as one of my 450's is likely to be moved to my son's house for my use there. I agree I cannot remember the last time I used SS miter. It is useless in comparison. fjimp