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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:06 am
by dusty
Interesting report, Scott. In response, I went out a few minutes ago to check the height of my router table which is semi permanent. It sets just a bit lower at an even 40".
Getting the carriage height out of equation will lower the router table (main table) a few inches which I believe will put the table at about the height I have chosen for my table. I think it will work and I am a shorty.
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:37 am
by SDSSmith
dusty wrote:Interesting report, Scott. In response, I went out a few minutes ago to check the height of my router table which is semi permanent. It sets just a bit lower at an even 40".
Getting the carriage height out of equation will lower the router table (main table) a few inches which I believe will put the table at about the height I have chosen for my table. I think it will work and I am a shorty.
As another reference, the Shopsmith free standing router table top is about 43 inches from the ground.
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:50 pm
by nuhobby
thedovetailjoint wrote:Keep in mind that this was done with the carriage in the standard position so that the table would work. If this had actually been the configuration the carriage would have been flipped over, which would put the table a few inches lower. This may not be where everything ends-up on the actual tool that SS is creating.
Also, I don't count two new functions, unless you count a shaper and router as two separate functions. Perhaps this will be a Mark VI?
Scott
I wonder -- surely somebody mentioned this before . . .
Maybe the new 2-way pivoting makes it such that with either end "up," you can fairly easily remove the respective 'tie bar' at the top end of the way-tubes. Then in the new shaper mode, you can flip the carriage around so the table does what you want (180 degree trunnion not needed on the table). The hole in the table-insert for shapers ought to be centered around the Quill either way.
This sounds like a little more hassle than the original Mk 7. However, the latest Mk. V OPR mount involves not a little bit of hassle either. Maybe that has set a precedent.
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:09 pm
by dusty
nuhobby wrote:I wonder -- surely somebody mentioned this before . . .
Maybe the new 2-way pivoting makes it such that with either end "up," you can fairly easily remove the respective 'tie bar' at the top end of the way-tubes. Then in the new shaper mode, you can flip the carriage around so the table does what you want (180 degree trunnion not needed on the table). The hole in the table-insert for shapers ought to be centered around the Quill either way.
This sounds like a little more hassle than the original Mk 7. However, the latest Mk. V OPR mount involves not a little bit of hassle either. Maybe that has set a precedent.
If I understand you correctly, I could do this with the current Mark V. Just take the headstock and carriage off the tubes. Then put the headstock back on (turned 180°) followed by the carriage (in its normal) position). At this point we have an under-the-table Shopsmith shaper.
NOPE, WON'T WORK! The Table Bar and Tube Assembly (163) gets in the way.
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:18 pm
by nuhobby
dusty wrote:If I understand you correctly, I could do this with the current Mark V. Just take the headstock and carriage off the tubes. Then put the headstock back on (turned 180°) followed by the carriage (in its normal) position). At this point we have an under-the-table Shopsmith shaper.
NOPE, WON'T WORK! The Table Bar and Tube Assembly (163) gets in the way.
Hmmm.... I haven't tried it yet. Is part-no 163 still in the way even if you extend the Quill a few inches?
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:10 am
by thedovetailjoint
dusty wrote:If I understand you correctly, I could do this with the current Mark V. Just take the headstock and carriage off the tubes. Then put the headstock back on (turned 180°) followed by the carriage (in its normal) position). At this point we have an under-the-table Shopsmith shaper.
NOPE, WON'T WORK! The Table Bar and Tube Assembly (163) gets in the way.
This is exactly what I did in the video and the tie bar wasn't in the way at all. Think about a shaper or drum sanding insert with the dust chute installed beneath. It goes directly under the hole and clears the tie bar, just as the quill does.
That said, there are still two things that concern me:
1.) Again, I was working with the carriage installed in it's normal position, which puts the table a bit high, but in this position the quill had to be fully extended. This is not my favorite position for side thrust.
2.) This is going to require a new dust chute design.