I suspect the planer chute increase is due to the pro planer no longer being available. I checked the price as I wanted to make sure it was still available. I 'tested' the order history function and stumbled upon my already ordering(and received) it.
Now I have to rediscover 'it'.
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JPG wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:46 am
Now I have to rediscover 'it'.
And I thought it was only me.
Larry Hargrove
Rock Island, Ok
1981 Mark V 500>510>520(98922)
19?? Mark V 500>Power Pro headstock 556176 06-17-11 factory exchange program original serial unknown
1957 Mark V 500 (350389)
1953 10ER
Another 10ER
Bandsaw 2012 Jointer 2012
Bandsaw, Jointer, other goodies
Craftsman table saw, Delta 46-460 Midi lathe
SS 6” Belt Sander w/power stand 1970’s?
It not just you or Larry for that matter. I am still working at finding stuff since the move that I know I have. Does anyone know what box my 2 Mark V 510/520/M7 Miters are in? They somehow must have been put into a box that was not just Shopsmith items. I had no problem finding the old Mark 5 Greenie Miters I have that are actually disassembled for restoring.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
dusty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:07 am
Please - if you are inclined to declare that have been "price increases (as a result of new ownership)" give us specific current examples. In the economy these days it is quite normal for prices to increase over time. It is called "inflation".
Scanning through some 'order history' I see some examples. I don't pretend to know the cause. And I notice that sometimes history reflects a reduced (sale) price and sometimes it reflects normal price even if that's not what I paid, so I can't necessarily tell if the price I give was list price at the time.
On 7/1/2022 I bought a jointer knife set for $34.99, current price is $64.99. Same order a belt sander backup plate (platen) was $20.78, now $36.95. A PP Idler Shaft I bought last month was $38.29, now $46.95. I also see examples of unchanged prices.
- David
and the price increases were "the result" of there being a new owner---or maybe just inflation.???
Let us not bash the new owner for other than what the new owner is responsible.
"Making Sawdust Safely" Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
dusty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:14 pm
and the price increases were "the result" of there being a new owner---or maybe just inflation.???
Let us not bash the new owner for other than what the new owner is responsible.
As I stated, I don't pretend to know the cause of the increases. You asked for specific examples, I provided a few. I wasn't weighing into the discussion of inflationary Vs new management. Some of both, I expect. But I think I recall from the interview video that Nick felt that SS did not have a good handle on their pricing, I took that as an indication that we would experience increases on some items. My recollection is words to the effect that no one could tell him their total costs associated with items they were selling.
Things would have to be REALLY bad for inflation to be 85.7%, 77.8% or even 22.6%. Thanks David for the real world pricing examples from recent purchases. Sticking with my assumption and I really didn't think it was a reach or bashing or anything. JUST STATING THE OBVIOUS with regard to a new owner taking over ANY new business, but also aligned with what was discussed from his interview.
RFGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:23 am
Things would have to be REALLY bad for inflation to be 85.7%, 77.8% or even 22.6%. Thanks David for the real world pricing examples. Sticking with my assumption and I really didn't think it was a reach or bashing or anything. JUST STATING THE OBVIOUS.
After all, WHY did he assume leadership?
I assume he saw an opportunity.
"Saving" the company is a goal fer sure(in the very least so as to sell it at a profit).
I see that goal as a likely deterrent to increasing prices on products which already appear inflated .
Now about the biscuit joiner pricing....
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JPG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:40 amI see that goal as a likely deterrent to increasing prices on products which already appear inflated .
Did you forget about the 25X sales increase target comment from the interview? One way to increase revenue is to raise prices. Econ 101.
I assumed the 25X sales increase target meant 25X more sales not the same number of sales at 25X the price.
+1
Econ 102 increasing price too much results in lower total revenue.
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