Can a 12" Planer w/o feed motor be converted to manual feed?
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Re: Can a 12" Planer w/o feed motor be converted to manual feed?
Bad news. I went to Eurton Electric with the motor/brush holder. They informed me that what is on their website is the selection they have available. I checked their part # BH4050 against my brush holder, and the BH4050 is for a wider brush size, as well as the brass portion being too long. Time to keep looking, it seems.
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Re: Can a 12" Planer w/o feed motor be converted to manual feed?
I am still on the trail. Having to obtain and document the 4 known types of Planer Feed Motors and I just encountered a 5th type that is out there... Negotiating to acquire it. Don't need it, but need it to document.
Still looking for the carbon brush holder and correct carbon brushes...
There are a bunch of holders out there, and it makes no sense to me at all that Shopsmith would have built a custom reduction gear motor for the planer when so many manufactured pieces of other equipment in other industries used very similar motors in other applications.
As you can tell from the attached photo, nailing down the holder(s) is a challenge, but I do not believe it is impossible, just hard. Once I find the holder, the appropriate brush to fill it should be far simpler.
Everett
Still looking for the carbon brush holder and correct carbon brushes...
There are a bunch of holders out there, and it makes no sense to me at all that Shopsmith would have built a custom reduction gear motor for the planer when so many manufactured pieces of other equipment in other industries used very similar motors in other applications.
As you can tell from the attached photo, nailing down the holder(s) is a challenge, but I do not believe it is impossible, just hard. Once I find the holder, the appropriate brush to fill it should be far simpler.
Everett
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Re: Can a 12" Planer w/o feed motor be converted to manual feed?
Here is a photo of the 5th type of Planer Feed Motor.
I plan to acquire it and the controller for it and will document it in detail in coming months.
Everett
I plan to acquire it and the controller for it and will document it in detail in coming months.
Everett
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Re: Can a 12" Planer w/o feed motor be converted to manual feed?
After working with the seller and obtaining more photos, it was apparent that the motor was not for the Planer as it had no reduction gearing. On questioning he revealed that it was in a batch of stuff that he sold all the other parts from.
On further analysis and a confirming photo from John Burger this week, I verified that it was a stand alone scroll saw motor.
I still purchased it and the controller which appears to be the same as one of the planer motor control types.
My interest remains in the brush holders and motor brushes which just may fit a VonWeise planer feed motor, or could be adapted to.
Everett
On further analysis and a confirming photo from John Burger this week, I verified that it was a stand alone scroll saw motor.
I still purchased it and the controller which appears to be the same as one of the planer motor control types.
My interest remains in the brush holders and motor brushes which just may fit a VonWeise planer feed motor, or could be adapted to.
Everett
Re: Can a 12" Planer w/o feed motor be converted to manual feed?
Some spectacularly good information here (thanks Everett) on parts for the feed motors.
Has anyone done any research on whether there are any complete motors out there new? I'm sure if they are they are pricey but if we have a motor that will work we might find a cheap clone somewhere too.
All I know is that SS no longer carries them. But there has to be something out there that will fit...
Has anyone done any research on whether there are any complete motors out there new? I'm sure if they are they are pricey but if we have a motor that will work we might find a cheap clone somewhere too.
All I know is that SS no longer carries them. But there has to be something out there that will fit...
Geoff Baker
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Belt sander - strip sander - bandsaw - scrollsaw - jointer - overarm router - undertable router mounted on main SS saw table - speed increaser - speed reducer - forced air HEPA filter for headstock - 19" SS powered aluminum drum sander - index wheel system - lathe table crossslide vise system
1951 10ER w variable speed electronic motor with reverse
1999 520 w PowerPro
Belt sander - strip sander - bandsaw - scrollsaw - jointer - overarm router - undertable router mounted on main SS saw table - speed increaser - speed reducer - forced air HEPA filter for headstock - 19" SS powered aluminum drum sander - index wheel system - lathe table crossslide vise system
Re: Can a 12" Planer w/o feed motor be converted to manual feed?
This site shows the planer motor available under a different number than in my old book. It isn't cheap, but likely available.
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/ite ... tem=513731
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/ite ... tem=513731
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Re: Can a 12" Planer w/o feed motor be converted to manual feed?
I have a dead feed motor that was removed from my Pro Planer. I'm not the original owner of the planer, but I believe that it's the original motor. If anyone needs parts from it, perhaps brushes/springs/caps/holders, I'll gladly send them to you. The brushes on my new motor are a different size, so I have no use for the old ones. You can see pictures of the old motor at this thread. If you need any of the parts, either reply here or PM me.
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Re: Can a 12" Planer w/o feed motor be converted to manual feed?
I hate to have to revive this thread, but I find myself in need of a replacement brush housing for a Shopsmith Mark-mount 12" planer feed motor. The brush shouldn't be a challenge, but one of the housings and cap are trash. Has anyone confirmed a source? Thanks, Scott
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Re: Can a 12" Planer w/o feed motor be converted to manual feed?
When brush housing broke off while moving I ended up having to hack up a solution. The brushes were easy to find. I ended up making a plug to go where the cap would be and tightly wraping electrical tape around the motor to hold the plug+brush assembly in place. That was about 5 yr ago and it's still going strong. If you need the brush source, I'll see if I can find the reciept... just let me know.
Randy
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SS Belt sander
SS Bandsaw
SS Pro Planer -with hacked speed control
2013 Power Pro -fantastic machine-daily workhorse !
SS Belt sander
SS Bandsaw
SS Pro Planer -with hacked speed control
Re: Can a 12" Planer w/o feed motor be converted to manual feed?
Be careful though. In the process of fixing the brushes I blew out the variable speed controller. I dont recall but suspect i shorted the brush connection. Hacked up a replacement for that too. Again, if you need info on the controller replacement I can look it up.
Randy
2013 Power Pro -fantastic machine-daily workhorse !
SS Belt sander
SS Bandsaw
SS Pro Planer -with hacked speed control
2013 Power Pro -fantastic machine-daily workhorse !
SS Belt sander
SS Bandsaw
SS Pro Planer -with hacked speed control