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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:24 pm
by mickyd
heathicus wrote:Are you going to paint the crown molding afterward? If so, just use some caulk to fill in the gaps. .......
Never saw Norm use that technique. :D (cheater!!)

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:29 pm
by JPG
iclark wrote:it is a parsing problem.

try it as:
Do not hold it by anything other than the_as_yet_unfolded_portions.
in other words, do hold it by the part that is still folded.
if it is completely unfolded (that is "fully extended"), then "never mind" as there is no folded part to hold it by.

and, yes, they are very easily broken if the grain is not very straight in the wooden parts. you find out about the cross-grain sections when they break.

Ivan
ps: getting the punctuation right for nested quotes is a pill. reminds me that: "If it has syntax, it is not user frindly.":rolleyes:

In other words, we said the same thing. The purpose of a qualifying/disqualifying parenthetical is to preclude the necessity of an additional sentence! Yes they sometimes lead to confusion by the recipient.

p.s. It ain't friendly either!:D

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:35 pm
by JPG
mickyd wrote:Is plywood thickness always shy by 1/32" regardless of nominal size?

Recently yes.:( Sorta like the 2x4 that used to be 1 5/8 x 3 5/8 are now 1 1/2 x 3 1/2.

Me thinks it is absurd to be shy by 1/32". They were = to nominal(+- shrinkage/expansion due to moisture variations[very small variations]) for many decades. Why are they 'sub nominal' now?:confused:

Any body seen AB grade lately?

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:44 pm
by mickyd
JPG40504 wrote:Recently yes.:( Sorta like the 2x4 that used to be 1 5/8 x 3 5/8 are now 1 1/2 x 3 1/2.

Me thinks it is absurd to be shy by 1/32". They were = to nominal(+- shrinkage/expansion due to moisture variations[very small variations]) for many decades. Why are they 'sub nominal' now?:confused:

Any body seen AB grade lately?
Straight router bits are 'oversized' as compared to the plywood thicknesses. A 1/2" straight router bit gives a loose fit for 1/2" (now 15/32"!!!) plywood. Cabinetmakers aren't screaming???

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:53 pm
by JPG
mickyd wrote:Straight router bits are 'oversized' as compared to the plywood thicknesses. A 1/2" straight router bit gives a loose fit for 1/2" (now 15/32"!!!) plywood. Cabinetmakers aren't screaming???
Cabinet makers use 'plywood'?

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:58 pm
by mickyd
JPG40504 wrote:Cabinet makers use 'plywood'?
With veneering, who would know? You get away with what you can!! :D

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:02 pm
by JPG
mickyd wrote:With veneering, who would know? You get away with what you can!! :D
Veneering also works well on mdf and 'particle board'.:(

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:17 pm
by heathicus
mickyd wrote:Straight router bits are 'oversized' as compared to the plywood thicknesses. A 1/2" straight router bit gives a loose fit for 1/2" (now 15/32"!!!) plywood. Cabinetmakers aren't screaming???
Well, they do make undersized bits that fit current plywood thicknesses.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=2115

Also, you could use a standard sized router bit that is undersized and make two passes.

Or, cut an undersized dado, then a rabbet (or "rebate" :)) on the edge of the plywood so it will fit the dado.

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:47 pm
by iclark
JPG40504 wrote:In other words, we said the same thing. The purpose of a qualifying/disqualifying parenthetical is to preclude the necessity of an additional sentence! Yes they sometimes lead to confusion by the recipient.

p.s. It ain't friendly either!:D
well, I was doing my best to repeat what you said.:)

and, yeah, it has been fiendishly difficult for me to be sure that I hit all of the friendly keys lately.:eek:

Deep subject matter

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:37 pm
by JPG
iclark wrote:well, I was doing my best to repeat what you said.:)

and, yeah, it has been fiendishly difficult for me to be sure that I hit all of the friendly keys lately.:eek:

And you Did do it well!;)