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table saw squeals and blade stops when ripping wood

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:32 am
by helm
When I am ripping wood using the table saw the headstock squeals and the blade stops.
This was a gradual thing.
It seems like the belt is slipping when under a load...and then the saw blade stops turning.
Would putting on a new drive belt fix this.
I have a 1962 Mark V with a 1 1/8 horse motor.
Thanks for any help.
:)

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:05 am
by dusty
helm wrote:When I am ripping wood using the table saw the headstock squeals and the blade stops.
This was a gradual thing.
It seems like the belt is slipping when under a load...and then the saw blade stops turning.
Would putting on a new drive belt fix this.
I have a 1962 Mark V with a 1 1/8 horse motor.
Thanks for any help.
:)
You need to do a lub, oil and filter like pit stop and then BEFORE you make any more sawdust do a complete table/fence alignment. Then check to make sure you have a sharp rip blade installed.

Unless you are ripping 4" oak, you should not have these symptoms.

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:10 am
by mikelst
if you still have the gilmer drive the clutch could be slipping. here is an adjustment for that posted by billmayo I think.
Good luck.

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:41 am
by helm
I can't find the adjustment procedure on your post Mike. Can you please tell me where it is?
Thanks

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:26 pm
by JPG
helm wrote:I can't find the adjustment procedure on your post Mike. Can you please tell me where it is?
Thanks
If you have a '62 1 1/8HP Mark 5' THERE IS NO CLUTCH.

Have you ever adjusted the poly-v belt tension?

Also a true rip blade works wonders.

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:40 pm
by mikelst
I didn't think the POLY V was standard until 64
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/toolhistory.htm

This I why I suggested checking on the gilmer.
If I'm mistaken please excuse me.

I am trying to find the post on the gilmer rebuild.

here
http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showpos ... stcount=42
Bill talks about testing the gilmer clutch.

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:54 pm
by JPG
mikelst wrote:I didn't think the POLY V was standard until 64
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/toolhistory.htm

This I why I suggested checking on the gilmer.
If I'm mistaken please excuse me.

I am trying to find the post on the gilmer rebuild.

Easy to understand the confusion.

A couple of 'paragraphs' above the 1964 one is this.




1960 to 1963 Brown/Gold/Tan/Anniversary Model- The introduction of the Poly-V drive system (the inside of the top belt is a serpentine).



I believe in 64' they went to gray. Never mind, that happened in 63!!!

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:04 am
by helm
I have not adjusted the polydrive. I will look up that procedure and try that....I also need to clean & lube it as the first person stated in his response.

I found the statement in the shopsmith serial number site you referred to regarding the polydrive where it states:

"1960 to 1963 Brown/Gold/Tan/Anniversary Model- The introduction of the Poly-V drive system (the inside of the top belt is a serpentine)." .....This is what I have.

The serial Number stamped on the circular steel plate of my shopsmith is 371598. The plate also says "Mark 5" along with "Yuba power productions Inc. Cincinati Ohio"

Even considering I got 10 years on this unit......it is still in better shape than me.

Thanks everuone for all your help.

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:42 pm
by terrydowning
Please also perform the fence alignment as Dusty suggested. I was having this problem as well as burning wood during cuts and found I was using excessive force to rip material (excessive force with any tool is always dangerous).

Aligning the fence did wonders!! Now I always have clean easy cuts and no bogging down. Based on the age of your machine you may want to either sharpen or replace your blade as well. Add a new/freshly sharpened blade to the fence alignment and all of a sudden you have a new machine!!

Good luck and keep us posted.

Gilmer rebuild thread

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:18 pm
by mikelst
I found the gilmer rebuild thread by mickyd

https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?p=32871#post32871

Probably not needed here but I said I would try to find it.

There is a reference to it in this thread
https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3078
which is also a great thread for general rebuild and maintenance issues

Thanks again to mickyd for all this shared information.