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I have in my possession a 10ER. I am new, I am cautious.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:40 am
by bad_synapse
I have just had given to me a 10ER. the condition is horrible as I am sure the majority of you have experienced in the past. So this is a proper salutation to get me in the door so I can pick brains and bend ears to turn this relic into something functional and also something has never seen before. So if anyone has any questions feel free to ask because i will be coming at all of you at 900 mph with interrogatives. EVERYONE HELLO and ROCK ON.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:25 am
by holsgo
Welcome and post pics. No pics means it didn't happen or doesn't exist.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:04 am
by dusty
bad_synapse wrote:I have just had given to me a 10ER. the condition is horrible as I am sure the majority of you have experienced in the past. So this is a proper salutation to get me in the door so I can pick brains and bend ears to turn this relic into something functional and also something has never seen before. So if anyone has any questions feel free to ask because i will be coming at all of you at 900 mph with interrogatives. EVERYONE HELLO and ROCK ON.
You are welcome to ask but before you do, please try to collect a few photos. It will help to respond with meaningful comments. Rust and corrosion makes anything look horrible but underneath may be a beauty. Be careful how you get there - NO ABRASIVES and NO HAMMERS.

We'll be waiting.

Pictures will be in under 12 hours.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:12 am
by Bad_Synapse_Labs
I run a special effects lab. So due to the ghoul season upon us I am slightly slammed.
My 10ER has at least 15 years of neglect to it. My overall goal is to clean every square inch and resurrect it to its former American glory. Understand it will take elbow grease and patience. I do have a background in metalwork due to working with planes and other various DOD projects while in the military and also as a defense contractor.
With that being said, I have some ideas for mods on this machine. Ranging from changing out some commonly used fasteners to be easier and more ergonomically to use. Along with laser collmination and some photo-optical PCBs for future use as a mill then the slow progression to a CNC. Understanding this will not happen overnight I look forward to chatting with all.

The pictures to ease the doubt

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:52 am
by Bad_Synapse_Labs
Meet Magnus.

This behemoth is an early version of the 10ER series. Rigimortus(corrosion and poor husbandry) is literally eveywhere. I plan on using sandblasting, electrolysis, citric acid baths and a lot of elbow grease.
Some of the basic fasteners are bastardized or MacGuyvered. I plan on replacing all of these with quality and uniform items.
I also plan on changing a few things for ease of use. Example being, the hardware to drop tension in the pulleys... I am removing the stock hardware and adding and adapting a static low profile ergonomic friendly handle.
Another daunting task is that I am adding channel bearings to all items on the way bars for a better flow of linear motions.
I know this sounds like a pipe dream and I will have nay sayers but I will say this...This is what my occupation is, I either from scratch build state of the art Rapid Response systems for our boots on the ground for the Air Force Research Labs and I also have a special effects lab. So I am always thinking ease of use, ease of repair, and how user friendly.
This is my first Shopsmith however so I have a huge learning curve and hope you guys could coach me. Any suggestions and constructive criticism are greatly appreciated.
There are 3 pics of Magnus
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Rock On All!

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:13 pm
by Bad_Synapse_Labs
Out of curiosity why no abrasives? I believe I know why. Do you have any heartburn with soft tip mallet use?

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:27 pm
by holsgo
That is certainly better than many I've seen. Pics of close up to check for pitting would help but does everything spin? Motor run?

The short answer is no.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:46 pm
by Bad_Synapse_Labs
I am a cynic. The previous owner said it ran. However I did not press him about when the last time he actually saw it run. Plus the power cord is toast physically.
I can say that all the pulleys seem to have good range of motion with no "noise" during turning(by hand) and the same with motor. The majority of the machine is covered in years of grease and whatever however I did not see anything such as pitting to coincide with material integrity issues.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:50 pm
by terrydowning
Actually not in too bad of shape for a gimmee.

Some TLC and that could be back in service in no time.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:02 pm
by dusty
Actually, I should have qualified the abrasives comment. Abasives are OKAY if you don't get carried away. In fact, at some stages of cleanup and polishing, abrasives (of a sort) will probably be required.

As for the HAMMER. If you use it and should not have you will understand.

Looking at your machine, I don't think you are likely to need a HAMMER. It is really in pretty good condition for an old machine. When resurrected, I am sure it will be a beauty.