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What does the Mark V maintenace kit consist of?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:18 pm
by Ed in Tampa
In the latest sawdust session at the bottom of the screen is a list of accessories that are available at discounted prices to Sawdust session viewers. One of the items list interests me
Item # 515714 Hardware Kit regular price $21.73 sales price $18.47
What is in this kit, is there a picture/description anywhere?
Ed
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:33 pm
by reible
What does the Mark V maintenance kit consist of?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:35 pm
by dusty
I don't know exactly what was in it when it was new and complete but I can tell you that the three of four or so items that I have had to use from the kit make it worth having (at least to me).
Why? Because when you do finally need one of those parts it becomes worth the price of the kit - you know - $21.00 set screw and micro thin flat washer.
I have another one on my wish list now.
Harwdare Kit or Blue Air
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:14 pm
by fjimp
The Hardare kit contains a wide variety of those little tiny shims and washers that I drop and can't find. I have ordered one kit and will soon order a second one. There is nothing more aggravating than a tiny scew or shim stopping what I am doing. In example today a snow sorm brought my work life to a stop. Such a blessing. I decided to assemble a cabinet I had purchased to mount under my work bench. As I was assembling one drawer I found the manufacturer had not planed the sides of the top drawer. An issue which needed to e corrected so the drawer would open and close properly. As I disassembled it I broke two of the wooden dowels that came packaged with it. Of course there is never an extra and certainly not two packaged with it. I always try and keep extra dowels on hand. Today I had none of that size. I did get lucky and found four inches of dowling in the scrap pile that could be made to work. I highly recommend the hardware kit. My wife likes the lack of blue air when such items are kept in stock. Jim
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:16 pm
by Ed in Tampa
Ed
Thanks!!!! Now I have to ask how did you find that? I did searches for part #, item name, I clicked on the sawdust session link, I thought I did everything possible to find a description and couldn't. How did you find it?
Tampa Ed
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:33 pm
by reible
Ed in Tampa wrote:Ed
Thanks!!!! Now I have to ask how did you find that? I did searches for part #, item name, I clicked on the sawdust session link, I thought I did everything possible to find a description and couldn't. How did you find it?
Tampa Ed
Google
Ed
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:57 am
by mtobey
On the SS site, search "help kit" mt
Help Kit
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:26 am
by dusty
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:38 pm
by Ed in Tampa
Dusty Mtobey
Yes I found both the hits you guys point out but notice the hit at
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/item ... =Find+Item does not give a description of what the kit contains.
In fact there is no way of finding this information short of doing a Google search as Reible tells us. Then we get hit
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/part ... dparts.htm where we can page down through the list and find help kit 515714 as item "J" and contains shim, washers and set screws as pictured in the picture posted above the desciptions.
Now consider item 515714 it is featured as a special sale item yet there is no real information to be found on the SS site unless one does a google search and then reads down a list of items to find it.
I think this problems clearly shows a major problem with the Shopsmith website. This is just one example but there are many items that have similar problems. I know I have not been able to find at least three things I have recently looked for.
Think about it Shopsmith goes to all the time and trouble to put an item on sale and notify us of the sale but when someone goes to do research on the product they can't find any information. What do most people do? I think they say, "ah forget it", and Shopsmith loses another sell.
Ed
Catalog
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:37 pm
by dusty
Ed in Tampa, I'm not sure I understand your point. You say the info is available only if you do a google search, not true. It might be easier to find by using a google search but like any hard catalog, you have to search through the pages of the catalog to find what you are interested in.
Help Kit, 515714, is shown on page 71 of the regular SS catalog and again in the Spring Special (per a reible google search). The same verbal description is called out at both locations.
If your point is that that kit description leaves something to be desired - I understand. What shims? what setscrews?
There are 64 set screws used in the standark Mark V configuration. These sets screws represent 14 different parts descriptions (where 5/16" - 8 x 1/4" is a parts description) and are distributed throughout 36 different locations (where miter gauge is a location; rip fence is a location).
Which sets screws, by part number, are in the kit? Call customer service, I'll bet they know.
I have the kit but I can't tell you what part numbers are in it. I could if I wanted to take each part and find it in the illustrated parts drawings but I'm not THAT CURIOUS.
What is interesting to me is that I have more shims and more set screws in my kit than are detailed to be part of the kit. I haven't gone out and bought any so that must mean they are from my equipment. I am for ever picking up something off the floor that I do not know the source of. I do know that I do NOT have 14 different type setscrews.