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Dubbie and the Shopsmith
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:10 am
by mgbbob
I recently purchased a mitre sled called the Dubbie. I purchased it for use with my Delta tablesaw. I emailed the company and ask about using it with my Shopsmith 510 and the company said they no longer support Shopsmith and that by the way since my Delta is the smaller table 22" the system will not work with my saw either.
We are still talking and I don't want to say anything bad about the company but in an older post Bill Mayo talked about a Dubbie for Shopsmith so I thought I would see what is out there as far as use and history.
I am not sure what the problem with the sorter table is but I suspect they are afraid of someone tipping the sled at the end of the cut. If I change out the bars to Shopsmith style the sled would be locked in.
Looks like a great sled, just a shame if it doesnt' work.
Bob
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:34 am
by Gene Howe
It appears you might be able to simply change out the bar.
I've had a few special length bars milled locally. The cost was reasonable.
Of course, you may lose the "washer" that engages the "T" slot. IMO, that's no biggie.
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:49 am
by joshh
Also, check out mkctools.com
He lives near me and make specialty items for shopsmiths and the quality is outstanding.
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:58 am
by pennview
I have a shop-made version of the Dubbie that I used with a Model 500. As I recall, all that was required was a runner to fit into the narrower slot on the Shopsmith table. You could always add outfeed or infeed support if the smaller table size is an issue.
In use, you might want to add a fixed piece of MDF or melamine to the right side of the Shopsmith table so that any off cuts don't get launched about the shop after completing a crosscut. This can happen if the off cuts are allowed to simply drop off the Dubbie, as they can bounce into the blade and thereby get launched.
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:03 am
by mgbbob
Good point. The tips from the folks at Dubbie also recommend the right side section. They include a discussion on how to build one. I think I saw slides in Peachtree that have the bottom washer like a Shopsmith. I will need to check the dimensions.
Dubby 'no longer supported?'
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:54 am
by forrestb
Bob, I wonder to whom you are speaking.
In-line Industries say they "introduced" the Dubby in 1987 and their web site lists both single and double Dubbys for the 510 ShopSmith at $179.
http://www.in-lineindustries.com/single_dubby.html
I don't own one, but have in mind making a similar jig for my 520. A front extension table is needed to support it for wide boards.
Forrest
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:10 pm
by mgbbob
I have been emailing Jerry Cole who is the owner. I purchased the system over the weekend at the KC Woodworking show. It appears to be a very nice set-up. I am not sure they always keep there information up to date. I have a 510 but other than the table size and the slides agree that it should work.
I purchased it for my Delta 64 370, I think, but it also has a 22" table and Mr. Cole indicated that it would not work.
He indicated he would call or email tonight so I will see what happens. The quality of his product is very good and the accuracy is amazing. I don't think I could duplicate at home without a lot of work.
If this doesn't work then I guess I will find out.
Bob
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:12 pm
by mgbbob
I just looked at the site and they also list one for the Delta 22" table. I wonder if there was a problem?
Bob
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:59 pm
by dusty
If anyone wants to build a sled that has the basic attributes of a single dubbie you might want to consider an Incra Miter Bar. The Incra Miter Bar is a T and it fits snugly in the Shopsmith miter track when properly adjusted.
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:15 pm
by mgbbob
Thanks Dusty, I may be moving that direction. i have read some of the past posts and think I can acomplish most of my goals without to many problems. The biggest problem is the "time" issue. I thought I was jumping ahead but I may have been falling back!