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Cold weather Glue advise
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:25 pm
by moggymatt
My shop is just starting to come out of hibernation, but wont be warm enough for normal glue times for some time. Anybody have any good cold weather glue recomendations? My 1st project of 2013 is a shop cabinet using 3/4 pine and box joints. I couldn't stand the clutter any longer and don't want to wait till April to actually glue stuff up.
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:40 pm
by beeg
How COLD did the shop get? Did ya store your glue in the shop?
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:40 pm
by pennview
Try this web page on the Titebond web site --
http://www.titebond.com/Libraries/Liter ... .sflb.ashx
Check out "chalking" or "chalk temperature" of glue, which tells you the lowest temperature for adequate glue set-up for their wood glues.
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:51 pm
by saminmn
I bought a heater for my basement shop. Spent more than 20 minutes in the shop for the first time this winter yesterday! It is a radiant panel. Don't know if it would affect glue ups, but it sure fixed my cold shop blues:D
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:13 pm
by moggymatt
The shop is sitting somewhere between 35-45 daily now. The garage never gets below freezing, even when it's zub-zero out for a week. I'm gratefull for that. I store my glues and stains in an old fridge along with my plugged in 18 volt battery chargers. They make just enough heat to keep the inside about mid- 60's all winter. The Tightbond I have is still good, I brought in a couple small glue-ups to the house and they set up ok. I was hoping someone might tell me Gorilla Glue or something might be ok down to that temp.
Cold weather glue
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:20 am
by eartigas
This question came at the right time for me as I have been researching solutions for cold weather gluing options. Is true that the typical and standard glues (Titebond, etc.) can do better at low temps but none of those can cure at the temperatures my workshop stays during winter.
I found a couple of yet "unreachable" solutions:
1) A company in Denmark makes a glue that can be applied and cures all the way to something like 20F but does not have a dealer in US.
2) The old casein glue can also be used as cold as it gets before freezing but I could not find anybody who sells it other than old boxes with historical value. If you google it you will find plenty of chinese industrial suppliers but no small quantities dealer.
So, I would like to hear others expertise for gluing in those temperatures below Titebond's reach.
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:10 pm
by charlese
This is an argument ave subject all right! Although I have always tried to glue at temps at least 50 deg. F. it always doesn't work that way. My shop often reaches temps between 30 and 40 in the winter mornings. I daily turn on my reflective heater and 500 watt shop light. Both of these can bring shop temps up to above 50 degrees.
I have glued at temps as low as 45, and clamped for at least a full hour. Knowing the shop will again cool at night, I do not stress these joints for a full 24 hours. This system has always worked for me with no glue failures. Using Titebond II yellow glue. BTW, I buy glue in one gallon bottles and pour into a smaller 1/2 pint spreader bottle for usage.
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:46 pm
by berry
I have a old crock pot I use sometimes keep glue or varnish warm. A couple of times I've wrapped a project in an electric blanket for a couple hours while the glue sets up.
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:14 am
by eartigas
Isn't it funny the extremes we have to go when a glue that existed 30 years ago was the solution. I like the blanket idea but won't do for outdoor projects. I am going to check the Goodwill store to see if I find one.
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:10 am
by jere
I have used gorilla glue and common epoxy in sub freezing temperatures with success. They cost more as a down side and epoxy is slow coming out of the tube if it isn't warmed up a little first.