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This was the short message I got from my brother in northern WI this morning.

-30.5 at 7:12

Ed, just think what it would have been, if it weren't for Al Gore's global warming. (can you believe, he's duped the country out of almost one BILLION, as personal gain, from this hoax?)

Last summer, we had a moderate, but long hot season. never broke 118, but we had 100 in April, and November, if memory serves me.

This weekend, we're looking at a high of 68-70 degrees.

Took my jacket to work this morning. Left it there. Hope I don't need it tomorrow. Walking ALL the way to work to get it (all 150 paces) I may freeze to death.

Don't get me wrong, I do feel for all those who are truly suffering. Sucks to be cold.

On the other hand, anyone seen pictures of the Niagara Ice Sculpture, formerly known as the Niagara Falls?:eek:

steve

Warmth is on the way as the Polar "vortex" (the 'in' word now; I just call it Winter) has been pushed out of ND beginning yesterday. We hit 30 degrees Thursday, and will be warmer still by Saturday. The weather people are saying they don't see serious subzero stuff into the near future.

We were in the teens this morning so I sat in my hot tub on the patio and watched the sun come up. After serious cold the teens can fill like a day at the beach

[quote="WmZiggy"]Warmth is on the way as the Polar "vortex" (the 'in' word now]Was there enough wet snow to create a flooding issue should there be a rapid melt?

dusty wrote:Was there enough wet snow to create a flooding issue should there be a rapid melt?

No, we don't have that much snow this winter. The snow pack this year is around 10 inches, and it is quite dry (not much moisture in it). In a normal year we usually get about 56 inches by Spring thaw. When it gets super-cold, it rarely snows. I heard yesterday that the storm track this year is running high across Canada. Of course the winter is young, and with warming temps we could get more snow. But as of now, we've only had a couple of snow storms, and the second one was a bust on snow fall in the Fargo area.

PS: Only onetime in my memory did we have a thaw in February. When the snow comes here, it stays until Spring.

skou wrote:Ed, just think what it would have been, if it weren't for Al Gore's global warming. (can you believe, he's duped the country out of almost one BILLION, as personal gain, from this hoax?)

Last summer, we had a moderate, but long hot season. never broke 118, but we had 100 in April, and November, if memory serves me.

This weekend, we're looking at a high of 68-70 degrees.

Took my jacket to work this morning. Left it there. Hope I don't need it tomorrow. Walking ALL the way to work to get it (all 150 paces) I may freeze to death.

Don't get me wrong, I do feel for all those who are truly suffering. Sucks to be cold.

On the other hand, anyone seen pictures of the Niagara Ice Sculpture, formerly known as the Niagara Falls?:eek:

steve

While I'm not fan of Gore one cold snap does not make a trend.

I know here in Florida since the late 70's we usually have a freeze or two a winter and I can't remember when the last one occurred.
Interestingly the old timers say before the late 70's that it rarely if ever froze.

I know on my property when I bought it it had 27 orange trees. The owner said that it has been getting colder and that the freezes the last couple of years made him move his operation south of where I lived so he was selling the land. Over the next few years all the trees froze and I had to pull them out.

Then 20 years later my neighbor planted a tree about 6-8 years ago and I told him it would freeze out, but after the first year or two it never froze enough to effect the tree.

Frankly I think we are going through cycles that have existed since the beginning.

Ed in Tampa wrote: Frankly I think we are going through cycles that have existed since the beginning.

Ed, I agree. Nothing more than cyclic changes, "possibly" caused by sunspots.

Still doesn't deny the fact, that Al Gore made almost a billion off of this. (Not to mention the Nobel, Oscar, Grammy, Emmy, Tony, Clio, and a bunch of other awards.):D

steve

Ed in Tampa wrote:While I'm not fan of Gore one cold snap does not make a trend.

I know here in Florida since the late 70's we usually have a freeze or two a winter and I can't remember when the last one occurred.
Interestingly the old timers say before the late 70's that it rarely if ever froze.

I know on my property when I bought it it had 27 orange trees. The owner said that it has been getting colder and that the freezes the last couple of years made him move his operation south of where I lived so he was selling the land. Over the next few years all the trees froze and I had to pull them out.

Then 20 years later my neighbor planted a tree about 6-8 years ago and I told him it would freeze out, but after the first year or two it never froze enough to effect the tree.

Frankly I think we are going through cycles that have existed since the beginning.

I think that is plausible, but, how long ago was the Greenland ice shelf so far inland? How long ago did the north passage stay open all winter?

One thing is fer sure, we be experiencing weather pattern shifts.

Then there is the O3 hole up north.

Cause/effect?

'We' would like to think we 'understand', but our observation time slice is way too short.

Then there is the depletion of the amazon forest which has been our past CO2 to O2 converter.


So go out and plant a tree!

WmZiggy wrote:No, we don't have that much snow this winter. The snow pack this year is around 10 inches, and it is quite dry (not much moisture in it). In a normal year we usually get about 56 inches by Spring thaw. When it gets super-cold, it rarely snows. I heard yesterday that the storm track this year is running high across Canada. Of course the winter is young, and with warming temps we could get more snow. But as of now, we've only had a couple of snow storms, and the second one was a bust on snow fall in the Fargo area.

PS: Only onetime in my memory did we have a thaw in February. When the snow comes here, it stays until Spring.

Some friends in Seattle sent me this.

CAUTION - Very salty language !!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8hGIF9FljM


I told them this part of Montana is a virtual tropical paradise compared to the eastern end of ND. Though the weather guesser says 90 MPH winds possible in the nearby mountains starting tonight and going through the weekend. The Rocky Mountain Front may look like the Siberian Steps after this weekend!
Hot and extreme wind - Nobody told me the legislature was back in session!!

Be well,
Ben

benush26 wrote:Some friends in Seattle sent me this.

CAUTION - Very salty language !!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8hGIF9FljM


I told them this part of Montana is a virtual tropical paradise compared to the eastern end of ND. Though the weather guesser says 90 MPH winds possible in the nearby mountains starting tonight and going through the weekend. The Rocky Mountain Front may look like the Siberian Steps after this weekend!
Hot and extreme wind - Nobody told me the legislature was back in session!!

Be well,
Ben

I love it. You know you can't be stupid and live in ND, but being blunt also helps those who are a little slow.