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Not sure if this affects us 'plebes'.



We are adding new Sections 15.5 and 15.6 to the User Agreement in order to include a license grant from Users to PayPal with respect to certain User generated content. In the new Section 15.5, when you give PayPal content, such as images or text, PayPal can use that content in various ways and exercise other of your rights related to it. Section 15.5 also provides that you guarantee that the material does not infringe the intellectual property or publicity rights of others. New Section 15.6 limits Section 15.5 by restricting our right under the User Agreement to use merchants’ trademarks to particular circumstances.



The new Sections 15.5 and 15.6 read as follows:


15.5 License Grant from You to PayPal; IP Warranties. Subject to section 15.6, when providing PayPal with content or posting content using PayPal Services, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, transferable, and sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right to exercise any and all copyright, publicity, trademarks, database rights and intellectual property rights you have in the content, in any media known now or in the future. Further, to the fullest extent permitted under applicable law, you waive your moral rights and promise not to assert such rights against PayPal, its sublicensees or its assignees. You represent and warrant that none of the following infringe any intellectual property or publicity right: your provision of content to PayPal, your posting of content using the PayPal Services, and PayPal’s use of such content (including of works derived from it) in connection with the PayPal Services.
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15.6 License Grant from Merchants to PayPal. Section 15.5 notwithstanding, if you are a Merchant using PayPal Merchant services, you hereby grant us a worldwide, non-exclusive, transferable, sublicensable (through multiple tiers), and royalty-free right to use and display publicly, during the term of this Agreement, your trademark(s) (including but not limited to registered and unregistered trademarks, trade names, service marks, logos, domain names and other designations owned, licensed to or used by you) for the purpose of (1) identifying you as a merchant that accepts a PayPal service as a payment form, and (2) any other use to which you specifically consent.

I'm wondering if a bank name and account number are "content?"

steve

skou wrote:I'm wondering if a bank name and account number are "content?"

steve

According to the Legal experts on websites the user's agreement (which you must accept to use the service) means they can do whatever they say even including emails that they send to you which end up in your "junk" mail and you never see provided you do not "opt out". As an example, I bought the Ooma Phone System and couldn't get it to work. Then discovered that they had charged me $13+ per month for something that should have only included taxes. American Depress canceled the charges and blocked future charges. I contacted Ooma and got a reply that their user agreement stated that if I didn't opt out that they would charge me this amount for premier services which I couldn't access. Because I had blocked them from future charges I worried about this but still would like to use their service]Anyone who adds additional comments to this post or to any posts from me agrees to pay $1 million dollars to me for reading and making comments. By posting a comment you agree that you have read this agreement and accept it's terms. Although future posts do not contain this agreement it still applies. [/I](your fault for not reading everything I have posted.) Any regulations by this user's group and website are null and void and will not supersede this statement. Any dispute will be determined by an arbitrator (of my choice) and will occur in my city or residence. All costs for arbitration will be borne by the one who disputes this claim.

See how easy it is?

For anyone who wants to see the reply from Ooma send me a PM with your email address and I will forward it.

My head hurts .....

Oh My! Happy that I don't understand!:rolleyes:

Db5 - Ooma depends a lot on the quality of your internet service. Lags and IIRC it is called jutter make a huge difference in call quality. I'm going on 4-5 years of using it with a grandfathered terms that said they would never make me pay another charge. Those terms forced them to eat the taxes and fees for my service for the last 3 years since they have charged them.

Also, I'm pretty sure like most services they give you a month of free service under the premiere with the comment that if you don't cancel you'll keep getting billed for it. That is unfortunately, pretty standard operating practice these days.