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SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
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Me too ...But millions of systems will not be updated and wii be essentally be running wide open to malware...I wish we could convince them to to switch to Linux by the deadline ...garys wrote:Not a lot to worry about. I never got any support from Microsoft on any product even when they claimed they were supporting it. That is one of the reasons I switched to Linux and stopped worrying about things like this that don't matter.
I switched to using Windows 7 on a new computer a month or so ago when my XP computer died. It took me some time to learn Windows 7 to where I could use it now. Mainly learning to right click much more than I did with XP. I really like the layout of Windows 7 now but still have to go to the book at times.
Bill Mayo bill.mayo@verizon.net
Shopsmith owner since 73. Sell, repair and rebuild Shopsmith, Total Shop & Wood Master headstocks, SPTs, attachments, accessories and parts. US Navy 1955-1975 (FTCS/E-8)
Shopsmith owner since 73. Sell, repair and rebuild Shopsmith, Total Shop & Wood Master headstocks, SPTs, attachments, accessories and parts. US Navy 1955-1975 (FTCS/E-8)
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Book??????????????billmayo wrote:I switched to using Windows 7 on a new computer a month or so ago when my XP computer died. It took me some time to learn Windows 7 to where I could use it now. Mainly learning to right click much more than I did with XP. I really like the layout of Windows 7 now but still have to go to the book at times.
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It seems I got a lot of support on XP, did you turn off the updates?
BTW support = updates for most of us.
I have a copy on a pc that I'm not using for much, since they are turning off support via no more updates I think I'll just unplug it from the net and it will become a standalone machine. I have a ME machine just like that now. Sooner or later I should part with these machines anyway. Last year I to two van loads of computer stuff to the recycling place, a lot of was from years ago when I built machines/upgraded them too, for people who wanted that sort of machine.
Ed
BTW support = updates for most of us.
I have a copy on a pc that I'm not using for much, since they are turning off support via no more updates I think I'll just unplug it from the net and it will become a standalone machine. I have a ME machine just like that now. Sooner or later I should part with these machines anyway. Last year I to two van loads of computer stuff to the recycling place, a lot of was from years ago when I built machines/upgraded them too, for people who wanted that sort of machine.
Ed
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garys wrote:Not a lot to worry about. I never got any support from Microsoft on any product even when they claimed they were supporting it. That is one of the reasons I switched to Linux and stopped worrying about things like this that don't matter.
I guess this depends on what you consider support. The number of changes/updates that were made to XP was enormous. I consider that support. I liked XP; hated to loose it so I didn't.
I relegated my XP machine to "shop computer". It will be used primarily for CAD and Sketchup projects but it still has Word and Excel. I just won't use it on line.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
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Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
I had a friend who had an XP machine fry the motherboard. I wasn't able to get an exact replacement motherboard, so I bought a different one. XP in Microsoft's twisted logic would no longer run because the stupid software thought it was loaded on a different computer. I called Microsoft and got someone in a foreign country who spoke such broken English that she was almost intelligible. She was unable to give me the necessary codes to make it work again. That is a total failure of Microsoft support when you spend your money for their operating system, and they can't make it work.dusty wrote:I guess this depends on what you consider support..
I fixed that machine by dumping XP and loading Fedora Linux on it. After that, it ran trouble free for years with no patching.
As far as updates. None of them would have been necessary if Microsoft hadn't written such an inscure system the first time around. And, when Microsoft wasn't able to fix their security holes within a year, some of the independent security firms stepped up and wrote security patches within days instead of years like Microsoft.
People need to wise up and ask themselves why these massive security problems and endless patches happen only to Microsoft. Every other software company seems to get it so close to right the first time that patches are a rare occurance, and even when they patch, they are almost never critical like Microsoft.
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The classic was of course the live Bill Gates on stage BSOD...
With any operating system doing a quick search with about any search engine (I still like Google) is your best friend. It's a rare problem indeed that has not come up before with a half million folks and the answer is usually faster to find with Google than stumbling around in poorly written instructions written in who knows what language and translated to broken English.
Here is an old page on that famous BSOD:
http://www.methodshop.com/video/reviews/microsoft-blue/
Linux... It's better, it's free... It is a lot like OS-X because they had the same parents.
I have had an old iMAC running OS-X for a few years just because I wanted to be a little familiar with it to see if I was missing out on something important. I wasn't.
I still download different operating systems and try them half a dozen times a year just so I can pretend that I am keeping up (I'm not
) but I have found no reason yet to switch from Ubuntu.
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With any operating system doing a quick search with about any search engine (I still like Google) is your best friend. It's a rare problem indeed that has not come up before with a half million folks and the answer is usually faster to find with Google than stumbling around in poorly written instructions written in who knows what language and translated to broken English.
Here is an old page on that famous BSOD:
http://www.methodshop.com/video/reviews/microsoft-blue/
Linux... It's better, it's free... It is a lot like OS-X because they had the same parents.
I have had an old iMAC running OS-X for a few years just because I wanted to be a little familiar with it to see if I was missing out on something important. I wasn't.
I still download different operating systems and try them half a dozen times a year just so I can pretend that I am keeping up (I'm not
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I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
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At least the Conan clip worked!;)
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange