I just picked up another 510 a few weeks ago and have run into an interesting issue. I attempted to mount one of the floating tables from the new acquisition to my old 510 and it is so far out of level that it is not possible to adjust it to where it is level with the main table. Probably about 1/8 inch below the level of the main table. Were there manufacturing differences within the 510 models ?
Paul
Aligning floating table on 510
Moderator: admin
-
masonsailor2
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 1564
- Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:57 am
- Location: Las Vegas NV
- dusty
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 21530
- Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am
- Location: Tucson (Wildcat Country), Arizona
Re: Aligning floating table on 510
I lay my 510 tables up side down on the bench (a known flat surface) and secure them there. Then I loosen the rails, slide the two extension tubes through the Main and into the floating (or extension) table. At this point, all there is left to do is tighten the bolts that secure the rails.
If this is done with out difficulty, I would expect the tables to be on the same plane with one another. The one idiosyncrasy that I have experienced is the tables may only be aligned one to the other when kept in that same orientation.
Were there manufacturing differences coming out of the plant? Probably. Only the Shadow knows!
If this is done with out difficulty, I would expect the tables to be on the same plane with one another. The one idiosyncrasy that I have experienced is the tables may only be aligned one to the other when kept in that same orientation.
Were there manufacturing differences coming out of the plant? Probably. Only the Shadow knows!
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Re: Aligning floating table on 510
I may be off base here, but I recall reading some threads that there are differences between the original 510 and something called the 510R (R for revised?). I believe these will not play well together.
Gale's Law: The bigger the woodworking project, the less the mistakes show in any photo taken far enough away to show the entire project!
Re: Aligning floating table on 510
DON'T know much about the 510, but are your tubes STRAIGHT?
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
.
.
Bob
.
.
Bob
- JPG
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 35600
- Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
Re: Aligning floating table on 510
The 'early' 510 rails mounted to the table with screws and tapped holes in the table. i.e. no way to adjust vertically.
Also the id of the tubes was increased(albeit a small amount), which can contribute to vertical alignment issues.
1/8" seems excessive.
More likely the vertical difference is due to the tube positioning above/below the clamping screw.
Sight unseen, that is how I 'see' it.

Also the id of the tubes was increased(albeit a small amount), which can contribute to vertical alignment issues.
1/8" seems excessive.
More likely the vertical difference is due to the tube positioning above/below the clamping screw.
Sight unseen, that is how I 'see' it.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
-
masonsailor2
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 1564
- Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:57 am
- Location: Las Vegas NV
Re: Aligning floating table on 510
Thanks for the input. The tubes on both are secured to the table by nuts onto the studs attached to the tubes. I had to give up on the issue and get some work done in the shop. Tomorrow is another day !
Paul
Paul
- dusty
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 21530
- Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am
- Location: Tucson (Wildcat Country), Arizona
Re: Aligning floating table on 510
Yes, there have been multiple discussions about this general topic and how different versions of the front and rear rails might effect alignment. Since all of Pauls' rails have studs that bolt to the table, most of those deviations have been eliminated. Without hands on, there is not much else that can be said. The alignment procedure that I use (and stated in this thread) should either work well or should point out the cause of the problem.algale wrote:I may be off base here, but I recall reading some threads that there are differences between the original 510 and something called the 510R (R for revised?). I believe these will not play well together.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.