Will new 1 1/3 HP mother work in my greenie

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Funbilly
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Will new 1 1/3 HP mother work in my greenie

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Hello everyone,,,,
Here I am again with a question that I'm sure all you SS pro's will know.
When I got my greenie it was not working. When it was plugged in all it would do was humm,
I have noticed that shop smith offers a mother upgrade to a more powerful 1 1/3 hp motor and was thinking since it probably needs a new motor, may as well just upgrade now.
Any thoughts??

Thanks again in advance!! Billy
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Assuming you are referring to the 1 1/8 hp ss motor, the answer is yes it will fit. Only the older motors with a large nut securing the spring would require additional newer parts.

However if it 'hums' there is likely crud(sawdust) in the start switch contacts. It could be simply a matter of cleaning the contacts.

If a GE motor, a wire may be loose from the start relay.

I would not give up on the 3/4hp motor so quickly. :)
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You might be able to fix the motor you have. Ill leave the advice to those who know whats going on. But ive found that these machines are so repairable. Jpg is the man on motor repair. He's been educating me for the past couple of weeks on the internal workings of one of my old motors.
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JPG wrote:Assuming you are referring to the 1 1/8 hp ss motor, the answer is yes it will fit. Only the older motors with a large nut securing the spring would require additional newer parts.

However if it 'hums' there is likely crud(sawdust) in the start switch contacts. It could be simply a matter of cleaning the contacts.

If a GE motor, a wire may be loose from the start relay.

I would not give up on the 3/4hp motor so quickly. :)

As a matter of fact, it may be able to be repaired. Will find out in a few days.
I sent head stock out to Alex Shop Smith Repair for it to be gone through.
I'll keep y'all posted!
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Oh, but you miss out on the joy of really dissecting your shopsmith!
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I'm just not comfortable taking it apart (headstock) I didn't know if I would mess something up or not lol I don't have a manual on the headstock yet. But believe me,,, I really wanted to!!
I worked on a lot of my sons race motors on his road race motorcycles. I did all of the motor rebuilds on his GP RS 125's so I'm sure I could work on one of these. I even did a lot on his 600's too.
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Billy
This site has printed and I believe DVD's of headstock repair. I have never dealt with Jacob but I have never read anything bad about him either
http://jacobs-repairshop.com/
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His videos are good, I bought them, but the same info is available here if you dig deep enough. The videos are nice though because he walks you through each step.
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wa2crk wrote:Billy
This site has printed and I believe DVD's of headstock repair. I have never dealt with Jacob but I have never read anything bad about him either
http://jacobs-repairshop.com/
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I have dealt with Jacob over the years and he has been very reliable and trustworthy to me. He does indeed have DVD's for sale, and a good many free ones on his YouTube offerings.

If you go to the site above one of the links at the top named My YouTube Videos will get you to his free ones.

When you click on the link, it may look like your screen didn't change as the header for the screens are the same. Scroll down once you click on something and you will see what I mean.

I have bought parts from Jacob, and own all of his DVD's.

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Don't give up too soon; if you were able to do race motors then you can certainly take apart a headstock, they are actually less intimidating once you get into them. I used Jacob's YouTube videos as well during my greenie restoration and he was a huge help along with all of the advice that I received from this forum. Be sure to take lots of photos as you go along because it will help you during reassembly.
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