Shopsmith Forums

First off this is not about anyone here at this time. I am on a # of wood working forums and here, which more about SS and WW is a side topic but with many great attributes, and the SS stuff here is fantastic, from ERs 66 year old machines, to all that followed them, Mark V, 510s, 520s, to the PP.
So to the point, some one has a problem with a product, they dont go to the manufacture with it, they start a thread and get all kinds of opinions, guesses, and do not know the posters expertise, now here, after reading anything, we can tell who are the experts and by going to the maintenance threads and look at who wrote so many great tutorials, if you have a brain, you can trust there answers for a specific problem on a SS.
So to my point, he has a problem with a new Feud blade and goes on a forum which some here are on it too, with his problem, instead of sending the pics to Freud. As I posted for him to do, if they have a CC problem and others have contacted them can handle it, without all the posters guesses. So why do they do it?? Just go to the source!!!!
http://lumberjocks.com/topics/140578

Interesting....

I switched to the Freud Fusion blade a couple months back and it is fantastic and nearly flawless. Though I bought the thin kerf and cannot tell from his post if his is full that had problems (and no I did not go to Freud to check, since mine is fine!! )

Guessing he might have an anxiety disorder; a fear of authority. My father has been dead for more than 15 years but he used to say of my mother "You can tell her, but you can't tell her much!" In her younger days she was a jock (even played professional baseball aka A League of Their Own). She had a fear of authority figures. Later became a grade school teacher. It would manifest itself in her asking EVERYONE under the sun about something with little hope of going to the source except as a last resort. People would often make excuses not to talk to her if they heard she was on a quest to find out something.
With the anonymity of the internet, it is much easier to play out the same scenario, with the bonus of staying hidden behind a keyboard.

Anyway, just a thought.

Be well,
Ben

I am not sure what your beef is. If I had that problem, I would not suspect the blade to be the fault. I would have to look elsewhere and where better to go looking than amongst a large group of potential users.

For me SS an amateur, I always suspect I am wrong before the equipment. I would ask here before the manufacturer because it's something simple that a new woodworker would miss.

Besides I learn more from a forum of 1000 answers than I will from the manufacturer who may or may not be helpful. I speak only for my situation though. Experts seeking answers may feel different.

What I find interesting reading all those posts is the abundance of replies that do nothing more than repeat the mantra of how the saw should be set up. i.e. saw setup rather than discussing the blade and likely causes for the problem(a couple of exceptions to that were worth reading).

As for the problem itself, I have not a clue.

I agree Freud may be the right place to ask the question.

I'm not that person but I bought a jump up whoppy saw blade once. I took it home and tried a cut. It looked like in nawed through to wood. I double checked everything, inspected the blade every way I could think of and still cut like a chain saw.

I cut a sample piece both rip and crosscut since it was a combo blade. I then made the same cuts using a very old Shopsmith blade. I took both back to the dealer laid them and the blade on the counter and the owner walked over to cash register and got my cash out and handed to me.

He was the one that had praised the blade. It was a new design one where they placed 10 crosscut teeth in a group followed by a group of 5 or 6 rip teeth then back to crosscut and so forth around the blade.

I wrote about my experience on a few forums but never mentioned a name. In almost every case people wanted to know the blade manufacture.
I didn't mention the name because I knew most people swear by this manufactures blades. Admittedly it was a new design and is now not made but it was a failure in my opinion.

Why posion the well was my thinking.

Ed in Tampa wrote:I'm not that person but I bought a jump up whoppy saw blade once. I took it home and tried a cut. It looked like in nawed through to wood. I double checked everything, inspected the blade every way I could think of and still cut like a chain saw.

I cut a sample piece both rip and crosscut since it was a combo blade. I then made the same cuts using a very old Shopsmith blade. I took both back to the dealer laid them and the blade on the counter and the owner walked over to cash register and got my cash out and handed to me.

He was the one that had praised the blade. It was a new design one where they placed 10 crosscut teeth in a group followed by a group of 5 or 6 rip teeth then back to crosscut and so forth around the blade.

I wrote about my experience on a few forums but never mentioned a name. In almost every case people wanted to know the blade manufacture.
I didn't mention the name because I knew most people swear by this manufactures blades. Admittedly it was a new design and is now not made but it was a failure in my opinion.

Why posion the well was my thinking.

Nooo do not poison the well! Just let everyone else know about the poison, but do not tell them the source?

So they become suspicious of all wells?



What pray tell does that accomplish?

I was not trying to poison any wells or slam Freud, I just used that thread and post as an example, my point was about going to the source.

Sorry - In my opinion This is much to do about nothing.

Posters do what posters do! - - They Post!
Sometimes without thinking their situation through.

Concerning manufactured tools; If the newly purchased tool doesn't work for you, Stop using it and don't buy another.

When you find a tool that performs for you the way you want - keep it, use it, no reason to change it, buy another when/if the first wears out.

Now, that makes sense.

charlese wrote: Concerning manufactured tools; If the newly purchased tool doesn't work for you, Stop using it and don't buy another.

When you find a tool that performs for you the way you want - keep it, use it, no reason to change it, buy another when/if the first wears out.