Shopsmith Bandsaw Bearings
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Shopsmith Bandsaw Bearings
In my on-going Shopsmith restoration, I'm still waiting on backorders: a couple of quadrant assys & a power cord. I am one double-bearing quill bearing short due to an Ebay seller listing one twice, when he only had one. So rather than pay to ship just one bearing, I took my band saw cover off & figured I'd get the bearing numbers so I can spread the shipping cost over several bearings. I'm a believer in replacing bearings rather than try to re-lubricate sealed bearings.
I took the wheels off. The upper wheel uses two needle bearing assemblies marked USA B INA SCE88. These are common.
The lower wheel has what looks to be an idler assy shaft. The markings are: 885144 A Japan OPC. I Googled it and found this is a common water pump assembly part.
The tensioner has two 627Z bearings which are one next to the other. These are common bearings, I believe.
The upper & lower guide bearings are marked SST WC77037-1. I was unable to find these on the net. I understand in the old bandsaws, these bearings were made of bronze. Anyone know of these?
Tony
I took the wheels off. The upper wheel uses two needle bearing assemblies marked USA B INA SCE88. These are common.
The lower wheel has what looks to be an idler assy shaft. The markings are: 885144 A Japan OPC. I Googled it and found this is a common water pump assembly part.
The tensioner has two 627Z bearings which are one next to the other. These are common bearings, I believe.
The upper & lower guide bearings are marked SST WC77037-1. I was unable to find these on the net. I understand in the old bandsaws, these bearings were made of bronze. Anyone know of these?
Tony
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There is another thread started by LDH, he posted a great set of plans to do an upgrade to the bearings. I have attached it again here. I have done it and it works great, I have lots of exta parts because I purchased items in bulk, PM me if you are interested.
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A 1982 500 Shopsmith brand upgraded to a Mark 7 PowerPro, Jointer, Bandsaw (with Kreg fence), Strip Sander, Ring Master and lots of accessories all purchased new
12" Sliding Compound Mitre Saw, 1200 CFM DC
Beaverton, OR
A 1982 500 Shopsmith brand upgraded to a Mark 7 PowerPro, Jointer, Bandsaw (with Kreg fence), Strip Sander, Ring Master and lots of accessories all purchased new
12" Sliding Compound Mitre Saw, 1200 CFM DC
Shopsmith Bandsaw Bearings
The upper bandsaw wheel will accept GB88 bearing also. The upper and lower bearing guides will accept 77037 or WC87037 bearings. I get them from http://www.ebatmus.com for customers. The old bronze bearings just needed lubication when oiling the headstock. I remove the bronze bearings and use a good grade of wheel bearing grease. Never had any problems with my bandsaw in 28 years. I will continue to use the bronze bearings in my personal bandsaws.
backhertz wrote:In my on-going Shopsmith restoration, I'm still waiting on backorders: a couple of quadrant assys & a power cord. I am one double-bearing quill bearing short due to an Ebay seller listing one twice, when he only had one. So rather than pay to ship just one bearing, I took my band saw cover off & figured I'd get the bearing numbers so I can spread the shipping cost over several bearings. I'm a believer in replacing bearings rather than try to re-lubricate sealed bearings.
I took the wheels off. The upper wheel uses two needle bearing assemblies marked USA B INA SCE88. These are common.
The lower wheel has what looks to be an idler assy shaft. The markings are: 885144 A Japan OPC. I Googled it and found this is a common water pump assembly part.
The tensioner has two 627Z bearings which are one next to the other. These are common bearings, I believe.
The upper & lower guide bearings are marked SST WC77037-1. I was unable to find these on the net. I understand in the old bandsaws, these bearings were made of bronze. Anyone know of these?
Tony
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bandsaw bearings
I could use a little help finding the bearings for my bandsaw; particularly the upper wheel needle bearings. I appreciate the help from this site.
Your answer is in post #3.
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Shopsmith Bandsaw Bearings
I have been using 2 higher quality 627Z bearings at all 3 bandsaw bearing/bushing locations for customers. I had to use a very thin shim on the inside bearing on the upper and lower blade guide locations and file a small notch on the blade guides for the outside bearings to clear. I used the 514008 shoulder screw in all 3 locations. I will continue to use the bronze bushings on my personal bandsaws and lube them when I do the headstock.
I have ceramic guide blocks available for the Shopsmith bandsaw.
I have ceramic guide blocks available for the Shopsmith bandsaw.
Bill Mayo bill.mayo@verizon.net
Shopsmith owner since 73. Sell, repair and rebuild Shopsmith, Total Shop & Wood Master headstocks, SPTs, attachments, accessories and parts. US Navy 1955-1975 (FTCS/E-8)
Shopsmith owner since 73. Sell, repair and rebuild Shopsmith, Total Shop & Wood Master headstocks, SPTs, attachments, accessories and parts. US Navy 1955-1975 (FTCS/E-8)
Blade guide assembly
On the shopsmith bandsaw, is the blade guide that holds the bearings a die cast or machined part?
Problem is that this is a bearing/shaft assembly where the shaft is part of the bearing and Shopsmith appears to have molded the wheel on the shaft making it impossible to change just the bearing/shaft.backhertz wrote:The lower wheel has what looks to be an idler assy shaft. The markings are: 885144 A Japan OPC. I Googled it and found this is a common water pump assembly part.
Or did someone find a way to remove the shaft from the wheel or bearings?
Brian
briancs wrote:Problem is that this is a bearing/shaft assembly where the shaft is part of the bearing and Shopsmith appears to have molded the wheel on the shaft making it impossible to change just the bearing/shaft.
Or did someone find a way to remove the shaft from the wheel or bearings?
Brian
I think Nick once posted that he tried to remove this water-pump-type bearing with a 100 ton press, and it wouldn't budge....
Chris
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Shopsmith Bandsaw Bearings
briancs wrote:Problem is that this is a bearing/shaft assembly where the shaft is part of the bearing and Shopsmith appears to have molded the wheel on the shaft making it impossible to change just the bearing/shaft.
Or did someone find a way to remove the shaft from the wheel or bearings?
Brian
I'm happy,happy,happy!
Today I put a 3 arm puller on my '59 Magna (Shopsmith) lower band saw wheel, and it easily started pushing out the shaft bearing assembly (New Departure 885126). Now I'm going to start looking for equivalent, or that 885144 A Japan OPC that was mentioned.
I thought I was doomed to start saving up for the $100 complete assembly.
Especially after I read:
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"I think Nick once posted that he tried to remove this water-pump-type >bearing with a 100 ton press, and it wouldn't budge...." ~Chris
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Maybe Nick was trying it on a different year band saw?
...and Bill, I appreciate your insight on keeping the bronze bushed guide bearings. Will save me some money!
John ~S.F. Bay area
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