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New Shopsmith owner - parts identification

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 11:09 pm
by zacnotes
Hello all! I recently purchased a used 520 50th anniversary Shopsmith, and got a great deal on it - the downside was that it sat outside for a while - it was covered with a tarp, but still rusted some of the exposed bits. I have since taken down the headstock, and everything looks in great condition. I removed the small bit of rust from the spindles - only the small bits poking out of the headstock case had any surface rust on them - and cleaned out, oiled and inspected all the interior parts. I haven't done any turning yet, so I am excited about getting this thing in good working order.

The arbors, tailstocks and other small bits that sat with the unit were coated in rust, but i put them all through some electrolysis rust removal, and they cleaned up well.

I have been able to identify most of the parts, but I have questions about 4. From left to right in the pictures below, what I can add:

The chuck doesn't appear to be a Shopsmith part (?) and it won't slide on to any spindle on the unit. The arbor piece it was attached to has a different taper on the other end, that fits into the tailstock. The part i find strange about it is that it is on a bearing - the front and back tapers are independent, and i don't see how that would be useful anywhere.

The middle piece I don't really have anything to add - regular right hand thread.

The last piece has a left hand thread
Image
http://i.imgur.com/EM0g7cs.jpg?1
Image
http://i.imgur.com/xqMPKe3.jpg?1

And finally, what I believe is the sanding wheel, but I would like confirmation of - I don't appear to have any kind of arbor that will fit that hole in the center, so I need to hunt one down:
Image
http://i.imgur.com/PLeiCtE.jpg
Image
http://i.imgur.com/Rksx0vb.jpg



and, should anyone be interested, the Shopsmith itself. I am aware that the bandsaw is in backwards, it is the only way I can currently store it in my garage.
http://i.imgur.com/SELgGH5.jpg

Thanks to all for looking, and extra thanks to those that provide any insight!

Edited 5.7.16 to include pictures in the post

Re: New Shopsmith owner - parts identification

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 11:15 pm
by JPG
If you truely want help, upload the pix to this forum.

Re: New Shopsmith owner - parts identification

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 12:07 am
by zacnotes
JPG wrote:If you truely want help, upload the pix to this forum.
Pictures uploaded - I did not originally because of the forum file size limit. Original links left for those that want a bigger picture.

Re: New Shopsmith owner - parts identification

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 12:56 am
by JPG
zacnotes wrote:
JPG wrote:If you truely want help, upload the pix to this forum.
Pictures uploaded - I did not originally because of the forum file size limit. Original links left for those that want a bigger picture.
But why so small? Bigger will work.
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Re: New Shopsmith owner - parts identification

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 1:12 am
by JPG
zacnotes wrote:Hello all! I recently purchased a used 520 50th anniversary Shopsmith, and got a great deal on it - the downside was that it sat outside for a while - it was covered with a tarp, but still rusted some of the exposed bits. I have since taken down the headstock, and everything looks in great condition. I removed the small bit of rust from the spindles - only the small bits poking out of the headstock case had any surface rust on them - and cleaned out, oiled and inspected all the interior parts. I haven't done any turning yet, so I am excited about getting this thing in good working order.

The arbors, tailstocks and other small bits that sat with the unit were coated in rust, but i put them all through some electrolysis rust removal, and they cleaned up well.

I have been able to identify most of the parts, but I have questions about 4. From left to right in the pictures below, what I can add:

The chuck doesn't appear to be a Shopsmith part (?) and it won't slide on to any spindle on the unit. The arbor piece it was attached to has a different taper on the other end, that fits into the tailstock. The part i find strange about it is that it is on a bearing - the front and back tapers are independent, and i don't see how that would be useful anywhere.

The middle piece I don't really have anything to add - regular right hand thread.

The last piece has a left hand thread Unknown chuck,5/8 saw arbor,1 1/4 saw arbor
Image
http://i.imgur.com/EM0g7cs.jpg?1
Image
http://i.imgur.com/xqMPKe3.jpg?1

And finally, what I believe is the sanding wheel, but I would like confirmation of - I don't appear to have any kind of arbor that will fit that hole in the center, so I need to hunt one down:
Image Universal tool rest part
http://i.imgur.com/PLeiCtE.jpg
Image
http://i.imgur.com/Rksx0vb.jpg



and, should anyone be interested, the Shopsmith itself. I am aware that the bandsaw is in backwards, it is the only way I can currently store it in my garage.
http://i.imgur.com/SELgGH5.jpg

Thanks to all for looking, and extra thanks to those that provide any insight!

Edited 5.7.16 to include pictures in the post
A Mark V either a 505 or 510 or 520(need tables to tell)
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Re: New Shopsmith owner - parts identification

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 5:37 am
by rcplaneguy
Looks like a 520 with that wide rip fence (under the peg board) and the table (under the bt3100 Ryobi) table saw....

Re: New Shopsmith owner - parts identification

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 10:04 am
by zacnotes
rcplaneguy wrote:Looks like a 520 with that wide rip fence (under the peg board) and the table (under the bt3100 Ryobi) table saw....
It is a 520- I have the unit itself identified, just need help with the couple of other items pictured

Re: New Shopsmith owner - parts identification

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 11:04 am
by BuckeyeDennis
Look in JPG's last reply. He ID'd the parts inline in the quoted text, in bold.

Re: New Shopsmith owner - parts identification

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 1:17 pm
by zacnotes
BuckeyeDennis wrote:Look in JPG's last reply. He ID'd the parts inline in the quoted text, in bold.
Thanks JPG- that makes sense. Looks like I have a couple of items to add, and I am not sure what I am going to do with the larger arbors.

Also, thanks Buckeye- I missed that in JPG's post.

Re: New Shopsmith owner - parts identification

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 1:47 pm
by JPG
Regarding the drill chuck.

Not SS, but interesting none the less if you are interested in 'turning'.

The chuck itself has a taper bore(quite common with chucks).

The other end adapts the chuck to other tapered bores. If it is a #2 Morse Taper that it will work in the SS tailstock.

A bearing in between? Unusual, but it would allow the chuck to function as a live tailstock center.

P.S. More info on the bearing may help us understand it.