Motor Start Circuits
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- everettdavis
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Motor Start Circuits
There have definitely been a thousand words or more trying to explain the various motor manufacturers and start circuits different Shopsmith models through the years.
Here is a graphic that may help visualize them in a manner that is helpful for most who have a basic understanding, and need just a bit more to visualize it.
Everett
Here is a graphic that may help visualize them in a manner that is helpful for most who have a basic understanding, and need just a bit more to visualize it.
Everett
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Re: Motor Start Circuits
Thanks, you pic and explanations made understanding the start/run process very easy.
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Re: Motor Start Circuits
Everett,
This is Perfect!! I just completed a reverse job with much help from posts from Joshh (https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/main ... ml#p144285) and Bill Mayo. Thanks Josh and Bill!
Without the vision of what was going on internally in the motor, it was a leap of faith when I cut the wire where the power wire attaches to the run windings(2) and start winding in the motor. This is a great addition!
This is Perfect!! I just completed a reverse job with much help from posts from Joshh (https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/main ... ml#p144285) and Bill Mayo. Thanks Josh and Bill!
Without the vision of what was going on internally in the motor, it was a leap of faith when I cut the wire where the power wire attaches to the run windings(2) and start winding in the motor. This is a great addition!
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Greenie Serial 293128 March 1955
Greenie Serial 300735 August 1955 - Bad shape, future restoration project.
Grey Serial SS102778 Sept 1981 - Reversible shorty SPT driver.
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Re: Motor Start Circuits
A couple of pesky details:
There are TWO run windings.
The order of the start winding/start switch/capacitor is not important, but they must be in series.
The graphic is excellent for gaining understanding.
There are TWO run windings.
The order of the start winding/start switch/capacitor is not important, but they must be in series.
The graphic is excellent for gaining understanding.
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Re: Motor Start Circuits
Schematics/wiring diagrams are essential to understanding any piece of equipment. It is almost impossible to trouble shoot something if you don't know how it is put together (wired).JPG wrote:A couple of pesky details:
There are TWO run windings.
The order of the start winding/start switch/capacitor is not important, but they must be in series.
The graphic is excellent for gaining understanding.
Thanks Everett. I am sure your diagram will help many here.
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- everettdavis
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Re: Motor Start Circuits
Here is a graphic representation that includes two run windings. It is not a formal schematic, it is a graphic representation to aid in visualization.
Everett Here is a typical Shopsmith motor start relay into which I inserted a schematic representation for connections.
Everett Here is a typical Shopsmith motor start relay into which I inserted a schematic representation for connections.
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Re: Motor Start Circuits
John,
Here is something I put together last year for a more traditional schematic representation of the motor circuit(s) that has both sets of windings.
Everett
Here is something I put together last year for a more traditional schematic representation of the motor circuit(s) that has both sets of windings.
Everett
Re: Motor Start Circuits
Yes, perfect!!!everettdavis wrote:John,
Here is something I put together last year for a more traditional schematic representation of the motor circuit(s) that has both sets of windings.
Everett
General Schematic for Capacitor Start Motor with Start Relay or Centrifugal Switch.png
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Re: Motor Start Circuits
Almost. Usually only one start winding or they are in series.(i.e. only two wire ends) Meaning quite clear as is.jsburger wrote:Yes, perfect!!!everettdavis wrote:John,
Here is something I put together last year for a more traditional schematic representation of the motor circuit(s) that has both sets of windings.
Everett
General Schematic for Capacitor Start Motor with Start Relay or Centrifugal Switch.png
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Re: Motor Start Circuits
Good catch JPG. One of my mentors corrects me!
Here you go.
Everett
Here you go.
Everett