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Re: Mark V Dust Collection - Is There a Better Way??

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:31 pm
by Gene Howe
Thanks, JPG. Once Dusty posted, I knew what it was.
Some of the off the wall stuff woodworkers do to accomplish tasks, are totally amazing. I wouldn't have ever thought to use that fencing part.... or part of a shower head ...to make an extension table.

Re: Mark V Dust Collection - Is There a Better Way??

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:38 pm
by dusty
Here is how this ended (for the time being). I have real work to do in the RV. It is scheduled for a road trip within months.
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In the last picture, this is what happens to the flexible hose when the carriage and headstock are brought together into the saw mode.

Re: Mark V Dust Collection - Is There a Better Way??

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:11 pm
by algale
Did the elbow at the dust chute disappear in this version?

Re: Mark V Dust Collection - Is There a Better Way??

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:37 pm
by dusty
algale wrote:Did the elbow at the dust chute disappear in this version?
The elbow, as seen in this last shot, will disappear but only if you help it to do so. The flexible hose is quite stiff and once straight it tends to stay that way. Just a little bit of pressure, at the elbow, and it straightens right out.

In normal operation, for me, it is seldom that the carriage and headstock will be far apart. I did this just to ascertain that the hose would expand far enough. I am not sure that I could move the carriage to its extreme in the opposite direction but I don't believe I would be likely to do that anyhow.

Now I have to get to work making sawdust and see if it really works.

Re: Mark V Dust Collection - Is There a Better Way??

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:10 pm
by rudy49
I know this thread is about improving dust collection but your floating out-feed table is what has my attention. This would solve so many problems.

Do you have any specs you can, and are willing, to share. Are the hook brackets off the shelf somewhere or did you fashion them yourself? How long is the rod? How much elevation is there between the bracket and the top of the table?

I know I could figure all of this out myself but I would really appreciate any information you can share.

Re: Mark V Dust Collection - Is There a Better Way??

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:12 pm
by JPG
rudy49 wrote:I know this thread is about improving dust collection but your floating out-feed table is what has my attention. This would solve so many problems.

Do you have any specs you can, and are willing, to share. Are the hook brackets off the shelf somewhere or did you fashion them yourself? How long is the rod? How much elevation is there between the bracket and the top of the table?

I know I could figure all of this out myself but I would really appreciate any information you can share.
The 'hook' brackets are from the mother ship.

Dusty has (a) lengthy thread(S) describing the development of that table.

The unique feature of it is that it tracks tilting of the table.

Re: Mark V Dust Collection - Is There a Better Way??

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:01 am
by dusty
rudy49 wrote:I know this thread is about improving dust collection but your floating out-feed table is what has my attention. This would solve so many problems.

Do you have any specs you can, and are willing, to share. Are the hook brackets off the shelf somewhere or did you fashion them yourself? How long is the rod? How much elevation is there between the bracket and the top of the table?

I know I could figure all of this out myself but I would really appreciate any information you can share.
The two links that I post here should put you in the area where most of the information is located. If you need more information, please initiate a different thread on that subject. I am willing to share all of my experiences regarding the tilting outfeed table. Building mine and making it work was quite a trip.

It is critical to understand cut line, center of rotation line (of the table) and location of support points.

http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewt ... ble#p13253

http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewt ... le#p211444

Re: Mark V Dust Collection - Is There a Better Way??

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:52 pm
by ecom1
This is a great topic for me because I struggle with the hose connection and dust produced by the saw. I had 2 thoughts:
first one was that maybe a shop vac or SS dust collector isn't sufficient, and a stronger suction source is needed. I also remember something on the Bill Pentz site that showed a revised upper blade guard with dust collection as part of it, so if you had a 4" or 6" line, you could split it down to collect both above and below the table.
The second thought was in regards to the existing collection port - what if the original was capped, and relocated using an aftermarket port (something like this)? I haven't tried it, so not sure if the location change would affect the dust collection

Re: Mark V Dust Collection - Is There a Better Way??

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:55 pm
by ecom1
Sorry, new user - can't figure out how to upload the pic :(

Re: Mark V Dust Collection - Is There a Better Way??

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:14 pm
by ecom1
What the pic showed was a 2 1/2" aftermarket dust port attached to the bottom of the lower guard - this would allow collection from directly below without interfering with the table. You could cap the existing with a plastic cap or duct tape I guess.