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Does anyone have enough parts to weigh a MK V model 500 table assembly. I would like the weight of the carriage, complete table and fence. Total is fine but individual parts also would be nice.

This is what I have from parts I have.

MK V 520 table, 520 fence and carriage.

Fence 8#
Carriage 7#
Table 26#
Total 41#

10ER table, fence and carriage.

Fence 2#
Carriage 12#
Table with solid tubes 19#
Total 33#


This is inspired from a discussion here on using a MK V table raiser on the 10ER and a question I got from a member on Skip's 10ER group. Some commented here that because the 10ER is cast iron the weight would be a problem. Well, from the above that is not true. I think the MK V 500 is close to the 10ER table weight but I would like to confirm that. The reason is that the question is which version of the MK V table raiser to use, the 500 or the 510/520.

My inclination is that the 500 version is adequate but with out the 500 table assembly weight there is no way to know. Interestingly the 500 table raiser is $3 more than the 510/520 version.

I am going to remove the table raiser from my 520 dedicated drill press and dry fit it to my 10ER dedicated drill press to prove the concept.

I have parts waiting to be assembled into a shorty so I can get weights for you but they will have to be bathroom scale weights. I will out for most of the night but if I have a chance I will get them on the scale, sometime after 10:00 or tomorrow morning. If someone beats me well fine please do so.

Ed

John,
Maybe a simple "chat" with the MS could get the answer on what the difference is and which one to get. Last fall when they where on sale, I wanted to get one for an ER in DP mode, which I have not installed yet, you said get the one for the 520. I was concerned about the ER weight also. Oh wait, it is here at moms on the FP hearth in the box, let me look.
Packing/shipping list sez, item 556335; Table Lifter (510, 520, MK7).

reible wrote:I have parts waiting to be assembled into a shorty so I can get weights for you but they will have to be bathroom scale weights. I will out for most of the night but if I have a chance I will get them on the scale, sometime after 10:00 or tomorrow morning. If someone beats me well fine please do so.

Ed

Bathroom scale is what I used for the posted weights so that is fine.

ERLover wrote:John,
Maybe a simple "chat" with the MS could get the answer on what the difference is and which one to get. Last fall when they where on sale, I wanted to get one for an ER in DP mode, which I have not installed yet, you said get the one for the 520. I was concerned about the ER weight also. Oh wait, it is here at moms on the FP hearth in the box, let me look.
Packing/shipping list sez, item 556335; Table Lifter (510, 520, MK7).

I am sure the difference is in the the spring cylinder vis-a-vis the different weights. Just as the conventional lift assist is different than the lift assist for the Power Pro. The Power Pro head stock weighs more than the conventional head stock.

I am sure CS will not discuss anything about the 10ER. Interestingly SS has a 10ER manual for sale.

OOPS!! Things get interesting here.

http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... assist.htm

SS is talking about the Power Pro before and after 1972. That page is all over the place.

ADMIN!!!!!!!!

I am guessing 1972 s/b 2012.

JPG wrote:I am guessing 1972 s/b 2012.

But the Mk V standard head stock did not change after 2012 and the P0wer Pro did not exist before 2012.

So these two entries make no sense.

556191 Shopsmith PowerPro Lift Assist for Mark 7's and Mark V's manufactured after 1972 .

556200 Shopsmith PowerPro Lift Assist for Mark V's manufactured before 1972 .

jsburger wrote:

JPG wrote:I am guessing 1972 s/b 2012.

But the Mk V standard head stock did not change after 2012 and the P0wer Pro did not exist before 2012.

So these two entries make no sense.

556191 Shopsmith PowerPro Lift Assist for Mark 7's and Mark V's manufactured after 1972 .

556200 Shopsmith PowerPro Lift Assist for Mark V's manufactured before 1972 .

What does make sense is that 1972 is when SS Inc. was created.

JPG wrote:

jsburger wrote:

JPG wrote:I am guessing 1972 s/b 2012.

But the Mk V standard head stock did not change after 2012 and the P0wer Pro did not exist before 2012.

So these two entries make no sense.

556191 Shopsmith PowerPro Lift Assist for Mark 7's and Mark V's manufactured after 1972 .

556200 Shopsmith PowerPro Lift Assist for Mark V's manufactured before 1972 .

What does make sense is that 1972 is when SS Inc. was created.

OK, but they need to fix the page. The Power Pro has nothing to do with 1972.

I think it makes perfect sense. A Mark V manufactured before 1972 can be upgraded to a PowerPro. It doesn't mean that it was manufactured NEW as a PowerPro. I think the attachment hardware may be different between the two vintages of machines, and the PowerPro determines the gas cylinder used in the upgrade.