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Horizontal Sawing

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Hi All,
I am new owner of a Mark V 500.

I have been working on re-milling old beams that I salvaged from a project. I am basically ripping them in half, or at least trying to.

I have used an Alaskan Mill with some success but still much more difficult than it aught to be.

If I could use the Shopsmith in drill press position with the saw blade, it would allow me to cut much deeper than any other method I have. It would also make it easier to manage the very heavy beams.

I have thought about this a great deal and I cant come up with any reason why this wouldn't work, but I figured I better ask the pros before breaking something.

Thanks!

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Re: Horizontal Sawing

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Do you have good health and life insurance? I would not use an entirely exposed blade and then load it to the hilt. Kickback is a bytch!That and the flex in the table would do me in! Plus the old Mark V you have is under powered for the task. You'd be better off with a good size band saw.
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I can see the safety geeks passing out from seeing that!

Needless to say extreme caution would be necessary.

However I do not recommend this for other reasons.

Ripping deeper will require greater power from the motor.

It appears you have a Greenie. That usually means a 3/4 motor.

Internal stresses that become changed by ripping will be a greater problem the deeper the rip cut.

P.S. The thinner bandsaw kerf will leave more usable material.
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Re: Horizontal Sawing

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I guess a band saw will have to be my next purchase!

I do believe this is a 1955 model. No apparent upgrades and no blade guards! Also on the shopping list :D
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An industrial bandsaw, with full in-feed and out-feed support for your beams, if you have to cut them yourself.

Unless you plan on getting heavily into that reclamation business, I would try to hire it done. If you are planning on a steady diet of heavy timber, I would invest in the best tool you can afford, designed for that job.

Depending on where you live, you may find a sawmill that is set up to do it with in a few hours of where you are. Even a few hours of driving is going to be cheaper that the least cost emergency room visit you can find.

Take them a trailer load of usable beams free from imbedded nails, screws etc., and come back with a trailer load of wood ready to work with.

There is great interest in many areas of the country for preserving old wood, such as timber framed barns etc. and I suspect there are even forums for discussions of that type of work.

I cannot discourage you enough from using a Shopsmith table saw, even a brand new one for heavy timbers.

I realize a 70lb beam may be heavy for one person, and a 200lb beam is heavy for someone else.

Without the right tools and safety set-up, it is dangerous. Even with the right tools, it can be dangerous.

I agree totally with what others have said. The Shopsmith Mark V table saw is not a candidate for this kind of work. The Shopsmith bandsaw isn't either.

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DON'T DO IT!!!!!!
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wa2crk wrote:DON'T DO IT!!!!!!
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I am sure one of the Old Shopsmith ads show them cutting wood in a vertical setup ( drill press mode).

That said I agree a bandsaw is the way to go.
But unless you plan to do this enough to warrant the purchase of a bandsaw a sawmill would be a better choice.
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Re: Horizontal Sawing

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Thank you all for the helpful feedback! I am afraid these beams are going to be the death of me...

I should have mentioned these boards have ancient cut nails buried in them. They are too soft to remove, but no saw mill will risk it. I have a 10 inch circular saw that I will try next, but that will still leave me 2 inches to work through.
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Re: Horizontal Sawing

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Well, I suspect that cut nails could explain difficulties with your Alaskan Mill!

With those nails in the picture, I'd say you not only need a properly-sized bandsaw, it needs a carbide blade like this.

Just how big are these beams, anyway?
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