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SHOP SMITH PLANER FEED MOTOR

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:06 pm
by woodmeister
Took my feed motor to and electric motor guru and he said it was a poorly designed motor. Regardless I am in need of a good used motor. Hopefully the rest of it works. Transmission and mounting plate are good. Any one got a parts motor around?
Thanks,
Tom

Re: SHOP SMITH PLANER FEED MOTOR

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:20 pm
by jsburger
woodmeister wrote:Took my feed motor to and electric motor guru and he said it was a poorly designed motor. Regardless I am in need of a good used motor. Hopefully the rest of it works. Transmission and mounting plate are good. Any one got a parts motor around?
Thanks,
Tom
I am not sure what that means. One opinion does not make it true. The fact that very few people part out SS planers is a testament to the fact that they are very robust.

Good luck on finding a feed motor. They almost never show up any where.

Re: SHOP SMITH PLANER FEED MOTOR

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:01 pm
by everettdavis
You may find a used planer is less than the motor from Shopsmith. I understand there are several vintages of motors and controller modules.

Another reason for a used donor.

Everett

Re: SHOP SMITH PLANER FEED MOTOR

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:47 pm
by alohacnc
woodmeister wrote:Took my feed motor to and electric motor guru and he said it was a poorly designed motor. Regardless I am in need of a good used motor. Hopefully the rest of it works. Transmission and mounting plate are good. Any one got a parts motor around?
Thanks,
Tom
Did the "motor guru" explain what was wrong? Did he refuse to repair the motor? It's a simple AC gear motor. There's not much to go wrong with them.

I don't know what's wrong with the motor but Dayton Motors sells any combination for AC motors with a gear box in the $200 range.

Re: SHOP SMITH PLANER FEED MOTOR

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:18 pm
by jsburger
alohacnc wrote:
woodmeister wrote:Took my feed motor to and electric motor guru and he said it was a poorly designed motor. Regardless I am in need of a good used motor. Hopefully the rest of it works. Transmission and mounting plate are good. Any one got a parts motor around?
Thanks,
Tom
Did the "motor guru" explain what was wrong? Did he refuse to repair the motor? It's a simple AC gear motor. There's not much to go wrong with them.

I don't know what's wrong with the motor but Dayton Motors sells any combination for AC motors with a gear box in the $200 range.
No, it is not "a simple AC gear motor". It is a DC motor and depending on the vintage of the planer they are different voltages. The motor controller on the side of the planer is specific to the motor. The controllers are not available so that is a problem also. AFAIK, SS planer feed motors are not available except from the Mother Ship. However, the SS planers are very robust like all of their products.

If you can find a drop in replacement there would be a lot of happy people here.

Re: SHOP SMITH PLANER FEED MOTOR

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:30 am
by dusty
jsburger wrote:
alohacnc wrote:
woodmeister wrote:Took my feed motor to and electric motor guru and he said it was a poorly designed motor. Regardless I am in need of a good used motor. Hopefully the rest of it works. Transmission and mounting plate are good. Any one got a parts motor around?
Thanks,
Tom
Did the "motor guru" explain what was wrong? Did he refuse to repair the motor? It's a simple AC gear motor. There's not much to go wrong with them.

I don't know what's wrong with the motor but Dayton Motors sells any combination for AC motors with a gear box in the $200 range.
No, it is not "a simple AC gear motor". It is a DC motor and depending on the vintage of the planer they are different voltages. The motor controller on the side of the planer is specific to the motor. The controllers are not available so that is a problem also. AFAIK, SS planer feed motors are not available except from the Mother Ship. However, the SS planers are very robust like all of their products.

If you can find a drop in replacement there would be a lot of happy people here.
My ProPlaner dates back quite a long ways and the motor that is on it (514203) is currently listed in the on-line catalog. Not cheap but available for the healthy price of $471.38.

The Control Box on mine (514692) is not listed but it crosses to a different number (515736) which can be placed in your shopping cart. With this insight, I would say that support is available though it is very costly.

I cannot imagine why Shopsmith thinks the Control Box is worth $380.35 or the motor at $471.38. These items are available new from only Shopsmith and therefore they have total control of the price. I think that is called a monopoly. But they can be purchased if you are willing to spend that kind of money.

The motor shops are no help because the parts that might be required are unique to this motor and are not readily available on the open market. I wish I had all of the old broken down worthless, poorly designed ProPlaner motors that out there. With some of those for parts and others for repair, I'd bet I could make all my spending money.

Re: SHOP SMITH PLANER FEED MOTOR

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:47 am
by dusty
I just drug myself in from the shop; been under the weather with a virile infection. While there I took a look at my Shopsmith ProPlanar Feed Motor. The label says that it is 115VDC, .5 amp.

Is there any that different than that?

I just agreed to purchase one, sight unseen for $40.00. It will be interesting to see just how badly I have been taken.

Re: RE: Re: SHOP SMITH PLANER FEED MOTOR

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:26 am
by Skizzity
dusty wrote:I just drug myself in from the shop; been under the weather with a virile infection. While there I took a look at my Shopsmith ProPlanar Feed Motor. The label says that it is 115VDC, .5 amp.

Is there any that different than that?

I just agreed to purchase one, sight unseen for $40.00. It will be interesting to see just how badly I have been taken.
Mine says .4 amps.

Re: RE: Re: SHOP SMITH PLANER FEED MOTOR

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:36 pm
by JPG
Skizzity wrote:
dusty wrote:I just drug myself in from the shop; been under the weather with a virile infection. While there I took a look at my Shopsmith ProPlanar Feed Motor. The label says that it is 115VDC, .5 amp.

Is there any that different than that?

I just agreed to purchase one, sight unseen for $40.00. It will be interesting to see just how badly I have been taken.
Mine says .4 amps.
Does it also say 90VDC? Mine says 90VDC and .5A(assume it is a ss mount motor - history unknown).


Considering the apparent 'simplicity' of the feed speed controller, I doubt any motor deviation will unlikely cause any problem other than a speed attained for a specific controller dial/knob setting.

However I only know of one controller version.

We do know the speed range is different between the pro planer and the ss mount model.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: SHOP SMITH PLANER FEED MOTOR

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:48 pm
by Skizzity
JPG wrote: Does it also say 90VDC? Mine says 90VDC and .5A(assume it is a ss mount motor - history unknown).


Considering the apparent 'simplicity' of the feed speed controller, I doubt any motor deviation will unlikely cause any problem other than a speed attained for a specific controller dial/knob setting.

However I only know of one controller version.

We do know the speed range is different between the pro planer and the ss mount model.
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