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Ka22
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Sharpening guide

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Just received sharpening guide,mounted on out feed table sharpening gouges looks pretty good but skew has me pulling hair out how in the world do you use this part of it
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What is an outfeed table on a Shopsmith? I just used mine today to sharpen my gouges, skew, parting tool, and roundnose without any problem. I did it all on the main table. I have the PowerPro headstock and I can reverse the rotation if I need to. However, there really is no need to do that. The only reason the instructions tell you to do it the way they do is so that the sparks will be going away from you instead of toward you. You can do it on a regular headstock all on the main table. The Sharpening Guide has a slot for the parting tool, one for the skew and bench chisels, one for the gouge, one for the roundnose, and one for shaper cutters.

I like using the sharpening guide on the belt sander because Shopsmith sells 220 and 320 grits and the belts are easily changed. I start with 120, then 220, and finally 320. I end with using the rubber honing wheel which leaves a mirror finish on the tools. Shopsmith no longer sells those but occasionally you will find one for sale on eBay.

For the skew you lean it against one side of the slot for one edge, and then turn the skew over and lean it against the other side of the slot for the other edge. The guide should be set at 10 degrees to the left of zero.
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I found this video by Doug Reid to be helpful in seeing the sharpening guide in action. He goes over the lathe tools that come standard with the Shopsmith.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JlT_bNTnBUw
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My instructions said to use extension tabla on back side of headstock.gave template to drill holes to mount sharpening guide. I sharpened gouges no problem but when I tried my skews all different ways they appeared to be way off.ground one partially seemed to far off. Guess I should put system on main table put disc on front of headstock and give that a try I don't see how that will change it I guess it's just me but I've seen that others have had a problem with this system also. I have been sharpening by hand maybe I should have kept it that way but video seemed quick and easy regretting purchasing at the moment guess I'll repost if I can get this to work for me!!!??
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The video gives no instructions and spends less than 10 seconds on skew doesn't say anything about angling to one side than flip and angle back makes no sense I was machinist for over 25 yrs used to hand grinding tools so not new to sharpening just this guide is frustrating I've tried and tried my one skew now has multiple bevel angles on it using this system and what's the deal with round extension on front of system with hole thru it it seems in the way of disk
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Another question is this only for ss chisels
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Ka22, if this is the right guide (you never said) it may help answering a few of your questions.

http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... gguide.htm

Yes, I do believe that it was intended to be used with a specific set of chisels BUT all it does is help you to keep the chisel in proper position as you do the grinding. Therefore, if you have other than a Shopsmith chisel why could it not be used as a stabilizer. You would have to determine proper positioning with respect to the disc.

Having said that: http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... hisels.htm

http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... hisles.htm
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Re: Sharpening guide

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Yes I ordered the ss sharpening guide but chisels are a variety,vintage craftsman that were never used ,hurricanes. I use easytools carbide also.what an idiot I am guide is good for gouges but now if I want to use this here goes another order I should have known!!!!!
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Re: Sharpening guide

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In the video he says to set the gauge at 13. Then with the point of the skew up grind on the front of the gauge (blue line on pic). Then flip the skew with point down grind on the rear of the gauge. (red line on pic). He says you will have multiple grind makes but you have to keep grinding till you only have one. In this pic they are using a chisel instead of a skew. Hope this helps.
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Perhaps you have the same problem with skews that I had. The sharpening guide is designed for Shopsmith chisels and their skew is flat sided. Most of my skews have convex sides. A curved side rotates instead of staying flat on the guide making it very difficult (?impossible) to maintain a stable angle. Worked great for my flat sided skews, however.
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