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original 10er vs revised 10er

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:43 pm
by bandmn
ok so here i go again lol. for those who are aware of my post about the jointer you are aware that i got more than the jointer unit. i was out in the garage last night working on some thing on my original SS, i noticed some differences between the headstocks. So i called skip today and he cleared it up, i have an original 10er and a revisioned 10er. which one should i keep and use, both are in great working condition and cosmetically similar?

Re: original 10er vs revised 10er

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:32 pm
by dusty
I'm not a 10ER fan but if I had to make that decision I would keep the original (depending a lot on condition).

I do hope that you poised this question to skip. He would be best able to give you as reliable answer.

Re: original 10er vs revised 10er

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:47 pm
by Dansmith
Keep both. You may regret in if you get rid of one. I have 2. One is a dedicated drill press and the other a dedicated lathe. The vertical drill press mode takes very little space. If space is an issue, you could always take it apart, and save parts for extras or replacements for the one you continue to use. Just my opinion.

Re: original 10er vs revised 10er

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:27 pm
by jsburger
bandmn wrote:ok so here i go again lol. for those who are aware of my post about the jointer you are aware that i got more than the jointer unit. i was out in the garage last night working on some thing on my original SS, i noticed some differences between the headstocks. So i called skip today and he cleared it up, i have an original 10er and a revisioned 10er. which one should i keep and use, both are in great working condition and cosmetically similar?
I assume you are talking about the quill and head stock locks. There were slight changes in the pinion shaft and its components also. None of these changes make a significant difference in the machines. As has been suggested, I would keep them both.

Re: original 10er vs revised 10er

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:37 pm
by ChrisNeilan
They don't sell for much, so I would keep both. If one is in the way, break it down and store it somewhere (attic?). you might need it later...

Re: original 10er vs revised 10er

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:48 pm
by bandmn
jsburger wrote:
bandmn wrote:ok so here i go again lol. for those who are aware of my post about the jointer you are aware that i got more than the jointer unit. i was out in the garage last night working on some thing on my original SS, i noticed some differences between the headstocks. So i called skip today and he cleared it up, i have an original 10er and a revisioned 10er. which one should i keep and use, both are in great working condition and cosmetically similar?
I assume you are talking about the quill and head stock locks. There were slight changes in the pinion shaft and its components also. None of these changes make a significant difference in the machines. As has been suggested, I would keep them both.
Yes i am along with the table carriage locks. I am thinking about keeping both.

Re: original 10er vs revised 10er

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:36 pm
by jsburger
bandmn wrote:
jsburger wrote:
bandmn wrote:ok so here i go again lol. for those who are aware of my post about the jointer you are aware that i got more than the jointer unit. i was out in the garage last night working on some thing on my original SS, i noticed some differences between the headstocks. So i called skip today and he cleared it up, i have an original 10er and a revisioned 10er. which one should i keep and use, both are in great working condition and cosmetically similar?
I assume you are talking about the quill and head stock locks. There were slight changes in the pinion shaft and its components also. None of these changes make a significant difference in the machines. As has been suggested, I would keep them both.
Yes i am along with the table carriage locks. I am thinking about keeping both.
You will not regret keeping both since you already have them.

Re: original 10er vs revised 10er

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:27 pm
by rjent
Another vote for keeping it! :cool:

Re: original 10er vs revised 10er

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:44 pm
by heathicus
Keep both! The only thing better than having a Shopsmith is having multiple Shopsmiths!

Also, I can't keep myself from clarifying... The original was the Model 10E (not ER). The E stood for Experimental. I don't remember (if I ever knew) why it was Model 10. When they introduced the improvements, it changed to Model 10ER (Experimental Revised). The R or E prefix to the serial number indicates the factory that it was made in (San Francisco or Cleveland respectively). If the serial number prefix is "ER" it's one of the rare handful of machines that started life as a Model 10E but received a factory upgrade to a Model 10ER before being shipped out.

Re: original 10er vs revised 10er

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:15 am
by bandmn
heathicus wrote:Keep both! The only thing better than having a Shopsmith is having multiple Shopsmiths!

Also, I can't keep myself from clarifying... The original was the Model 10E (not ER). The E stood for Experimental. I don't remember (if I ever knew) why it was Model 10. When they introduced the improvements, it changed to Model 10ER (Experimental Revised). The R or E prefix to the serial number indicates the factory that it was made in (San Francisco or Cleveland respectively). If the serial number prefix is "ER" it's one of the rare handful of machines that started life as a Model 10E but received a factory upgrade to a Model 10ER before being shipped out.
I have 2 10er's 1 is the original version of the 10er and the other is version 2 of the 10er from the way i understand it.