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I would like to express my thanks to my friend and mentor John S. Burger for his kind and thoughtful gift of the Shadowbox Display he personally designed and made for my 1950 Australian Shopsmith 10-ER Owner’s Guide.

I obtained the Owner's Guide through a bookseller in Australia earlier in the year, but that is only a small piece of the story. George Stevens of Australia and I had been in communication regarding C.C. Engineering Industries Ltd. In New South Wales where his grandfather and great-grandfather worked, re-assembling and completing Shopsmith 10-ER’s and upgraded 10E’s for sale in the early 1950’s.

The brass inscription John made to commemorate the find reads as follows:

This is the owner’s manual from a Magna 10ER sold in Australia. Beginning in 1950 Magna shipped the parts to Australia and the machines were assembled and sold by C.C. Engineering Industries Ltd. under license to Magna Engineering Corporation. The number on the cover is believed to be the serial number of the machine that it came with. As such it would be one of the first 250 machines sold in Australia.

You can read all about it in a 29 Jun 2017 post titled “Shopsmiths in Australia - for what it's worth” at http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewt ... 52#p236052

With grateful appreciation to John S. Burger, who gave me one more of the many things I am thankful for this Thanksgiving season. I finished installing the manual in it earlier this evening, and wanted to post a photo of it as it is now complete.

Thanks John!

Everett

Everett, I've seen more than one Model 10
from Australia, that was painted red.

Just a fluke, or were a bunch of them
produced in that color?

John, I do thank you, as well.

steve

skou wrote:Everett, I've seen more than one Model 10
from Australia, that was painted red.

Just a fluke, or were a bunch of them
produced in that color?

John, I do thank you, as well.

steve

I honestly don't know. I have seen a couple of red ones too. If you follow the link to the thread where we discussed it, the SN 1200 (which is hand stamped in Elite Font, opposed to the PICA machine stamped in the US), you will see it is on a battleship blue-gray machine in Australia.

Since it has been 68 years since they were first sold there, I suspect some were painted to match other gear, or repainted to restore a finish somewhere over the years. I believe the one with the scratched up badge owned by Megasteve was red, then painted black or dark gray on restoration.

Mr. Stevens grandfather sadly passed away in September. He might have known.

Everett

Another forum member sent me an "A" Mark 5 headstock casting that was 'maybe' used by Magna Engineering in production. No evidence or proof of that.

So I find it 'interesting' that C. C. Engineering may have also had 'red' headstocks.

JPG wrote:Another forum member sent me an "A" Mark 5 headstock casting that was 'maybe' used by Magna Engineering in production. No evidence or proof of that.

So I find it 'interesting' that C. C. Engineering may have also had 'red' headstocks.

Mickyd restoration of his 1952 10ER was a reddish orange color. See http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewt ... 199#p37199

That was 1952 edition and the early A Mark 5 headstock castings were made in 1953. Maybe there were some.

Bill Mayo felt my early Greenie was one of the first castings made as it didn't have the top casting sprue at all. Some felt the sprue was ground away. Others felt it was a short pour and didn't fill.

I felt that it may have been an early casting put on the shelf and covered up by other castings more of a first in last off the shelf thing. It was traditional Greenie color, but no way to know when it was cast, just that it was an early sand casting done in first year of production.

They moved to an injected mold on the B headstocks which narrowed the width of the sprue to what it remains today.

It is very possible that some Mark 5's were painted red in that period by MAGNA especially if a big order was requested by a retailer whose other product offerings were red.

I don't know. I have seen a series of white 10ER units and I have a factory OEM blue 10E (#1414) so that's red, white, blue, and gray I know of.

Curious to know more about color variances myself.

Everett

It’s very nice to see the historical aspects and the preservation of them. Thank you both for such a great job on this and also the other projects you have done to keep the lineage alive !
Paul

Glad to be a part of this. I have been wondering if the red white blue pieces came about as part of the Magna Engineering to MAGNA American transition of the company

Shopsmith recently told me they discovered a cardboard box full of documentation that Hans brought them later in life for historical preservation.

I was told it was out to their printer for scanning so maybe there are some archival gems they will release electronically.

We can hope there's some real answers in that material

Everett

OMG! 'Recently found' a cardboard box . . . .

It is a miracle that it survived the purge of 'historical' items in that rummage sale a few years ago!

We can only hope there is gold in that box.











Pun intended!

everettdavis wrote:I would like to express my thanks to my friend and mentor John S. Burger for his kind and thoughtful gift of the Shadowbox Display he personally designed and made for my 1950 Australian Shopsmith 10-ER Owner’s Guide.

I obtained the Owner's Guide through a bookseller in Australia earlier in the year, but that is only a small piece of the story. George Stevens of Australia and I had been in communication regarding C.C. Engineering Industries Ltd. In New South Wales where his grandfather and great-grandfather worked, re-assembling and completing Shopsmith 10-ER’s and upgraded 10E’s for sale in the early 1950’s.

The brass inscription John made to commemorate the find reads as follows:

This is the owner’s manual from a Magna 10ER sold in Australia. Beginning in 1950 Magna shipped the parts to Australia and the machines were assembled and sold by C.C. Engineering Industries Ltd. under license to Magna Engineering Corporation. The number on the cover is believed to be the serial number of the machine that it came with. As such it would be one of the first 250 machines sold in Australia.

You can read all about it in a 29 Jun 2017 post titled “Shopsmiths in Australia - for what it's worth” at http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewt ... 52#p236052

With grateful appreciation to John S. Burger, who gave me one more of the many things I am thankful for this Thanksgiving season. I finished installing the manual in it earlier this evening, and wanted to post a photo of it as it is now complete.

Thanks John!

Everett
Shadowbox made by John S. Burger as a gift to me.JPG

You are very welcome Everett. It was my pleasure.