Good afternoon,
I am trying to restore my father's Shopsmith 10E model 228 bought new in the mid in Sydney Australia in the1950's.
It is running well but has a concerning bearing noise.
Is anyone able to pass on instructions on how to remove and replace the bearings?
Also are the bearings available in Australia?
Thanks Peter
Bearing replacement
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Re: Bearing replacement
Welcome aboard.
The post in this link has links to a lot of 10E/ER documentation and resources.
viewtopic.php?p=274502#p274502
The 10E and10ER have four bearings in the headstock. Two in the quill. This video shows how to replace them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MbGbefGFDQ
And two in the drive sleeve
There is a grub screw (setscrew) on the back of the headstock that holds the drive sleeve in place. Mine also had some type of sticky/tar like substance holding it in the bore. With the quill removed, I put a stick of wood through from the quill end and tapped with a hammer to encourage it to come out.
The second picture in this post shows how to pull the bearings and spacer off the drive sleeve.
viewtopic.php?p=41515#p41515
The post in this link has links to a lot of 10E/ER documentation and resources.
viewtopic.php?p=274502#p274502
The 10E and10ER have four bearings in the headstock. Two in the quill. This video shows how to replace them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MbGbefGFDQ
And two in the drive sleeve
There is a grub screw (setscrew) on the back of the headstock that holds the drive sleeve in place. Mine also had some type of sticky/tar like substance holding it in the bore. With the quill removed, I put a stick of wood through from the quill end and tapped with a hammer to encourage it to come out.
The second picture in this post shows how to pull the bearings and spacer off the drive sleeve.
viewtopic.php?p=41515#p41515
Ron Dyck
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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Re: Bearing replacement
Peter,
The original brand of bearings are Fafnir at least in the US. For the quill bearings they are 202KLL3 and for the drive sleeve bearings they are 205KLL2. Fafnir is now part of Timken so look for them under that name too. Below are pictures of the 2 Bearings. Note that the part numbers are on the inner ring and the brand on the bearing covers.
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Something to know about the Shopsmith Model 10E made in Australia is they are actually equivalent to a Model 10ER made in the US. When looking for parts you will want to use caution buying parts from a US Model 10E since not all parts are interchangeable individually. Some have to be changed as an assembly. There were between 1 to 7 versions of parts used in the Model 10E and 10ER between their introduction in 1947 through 1953 when it was replaced by the Mark 5.
The original brand of bearings are Fafnir at least in the US. For the quill bearings they are 202KLL3 and for the drive sleeve bearings they are 205KLL2. Fafnir is now part of Timken so look for them under that name too. Below are pictures of the 2 Bearings. Note that the part numbers are on the inner ring and the brand on the bearing covers.
_ _
Something to know about the Shopsmith Model 10E made in Australia is they are actually equivalent to a Model 10ER made in the US. When looking for parts you will want to use caution buying parts from a US Model 10E since not all parts are interchangeable individually. Some have to be changed as an assembly. There were between 1 to 7 versions of parts used in the Model 10E and 10ER between their introduction in 1947 through 1953 when it was replaced by the Mark 5.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Re: Bearing replacement
Manty thanks for your quick responses.
I'll get onto it asap.
Regards Peter
I'll get onto it asap.
Regards Peter
Re: Bearing replacement
Thanks rpd,
Understand how to get the bearings off the quill, but what about those at the pulley end?
Do I just tap the shaft out towards the pulley?
Regards Peter
Understand how to get the bearings off the quill, but what about those at the pulley end?
Do I just tap the shaft out towards the pulley?
Regards Peter
Re: Bearing replacement
On the pulley end of the headstock there is a threaded hole on the top where the bolt that holds the upper belt guard goes. In line with that, on the back side of the headstock, is a set screw that tightens against the spacer ring on the drive sleeve and holds it in place. The drive sleeve is a slip fit in the headstock bore, but mine also had a sticky substance holding it in place.
Ron Dyck
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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Re: Bearing replacement
In removing the Drive Sleeve from the headstock, pull it out after removing the set screw shown in Ron's picture above. Sometimes they need a little help getting out. Use a wood dowel around an inch in diameter from the quill side and tap with a mallet. Do not use metal objects directly against the Drive Sleeve Assembly to remove it as this can cause damage to its parts.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Re: Bearing replacement
Thanks Ron and Russ