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Re: Shaper/Sander Fence Bolts
Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 1:19 pm
by chapmanruss
Mike and JPG,
I have been following your posts back and forth about the Front Table Extension. Although I have restored 4 Mark 5/V's with the original table system (2 greenies, a goldie and an 82 Mark V) I have never had a Front Table Extension for any of them and it is good to know that there is apparently more than one version. From your posts the difference appears to be the attachment lock. I guess it makes sense since the original Mark 5 Main Table had the fence rail cast as part of the Main Table and later Main Tables had a bolt on fence rail. Apparently Shopsmith no longer makes the Front Table Extension.
JPG, is the change in the fence rail the reason for the difference in the versions?
Which version does the Mark VII use?
This kind of information is what I like to see included in my thread "Shopsmith Mark 5 What When and Where."
Re: Shaper/Sander Fence Bolts
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:42 pm
by miken
chapmanruss wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 1:19 pm
Which version does the Mark VII use?
Hi Russ, that is the question. I think it is the one with the square block shape at the attachment point, as opposed to the one I inadvertently purchased, aka the Greenie version.
Hopefully JPG can provide the dimensions to confirm. I only know of two attachment types.
Mike -
Re: Shaper/Sander Fence Bolts
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:55 am
by JPG
Sorry I have not yet responded. Been off the forum fer almost 2 weeks. I will try to get it done soon(tomorrow???)
Re: Shaper/Sander Fence Bolts
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:01 am
by JPG
chapmanruss wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 1:19 pm
Mike and JPG,
I have been following your posts back and forth about the Front Table Extension. Although I have restored 4 Mark 5/V's with the original table system (2 greenies, a goldie and an 82 Mark V) I have never had a Front Table Extension for any of them and it is good to know that there is apparently more than one version. From your posts the difference appears to be the attachment lock. I guess it makes sense since the original Mark 5 Main Table had the fence rail cast as part of the Main Table and later Main Tables had a bolt on fence rail. Apparently Shopsmith no longer makes the Front Table Extension.
JPG, is the change in the fence rail the reason for the difference in the versions?
YES
Which version does the Mark VII use?
same as M5(later)/V 500
This kind of information is what I like to see included in my thread "
Shopsmith Mark 5 What When and Where."
Re: Shaper/Sander Fence Bolts
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:06 am
by miken
JPG wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:55 am
Sorry I have not yet responded. Been off the forum fer almost 2 weeks. I will try to get it done soon(tomorrow???)
Thanks JPG, appreciate it.
Mike
Re: Shaper/Sander Fence Bolts
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:47 am
by JPG
The distance from the pivot hole to the outer end is 1 3/8"
The first 'flat is 3/8" in from the end.
The second flat is another 1/2" (7/8 overall).
The final flat is 1 1/6 from the end.
Realize these are eyeball measurements.
If you need more holler.
BTW HTH did you get the cam/shaft out?
Re: Shaper/Sander Fence Bolts
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:06 pm
by miken
JPG wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:47 am
BTW HTH did you get the cam/shaft out?
You need to wiggle the spring a bit. The spring is in a groove on the cam. If you center the spring it will come out of that groove and the cam will slide out.
Could you post a few pics looking directly at the side of the attachment piece. I am trying to see if all the flats are parallel to each other, or if one has a slight slope.
Thanks for the dimensions JPG.
Mike
Re: Shaper/Sander Fence Bolts
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:20 pm
by JPG
I believe they are parallel including the non functional long surface.
Will reattempt disassembly and if successful post a pix.
Re: Shaper/Sander Fence Bolts
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:58 pm
by miken
JPG wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:20 pm
I believe they are parallel including the non functional long surface.
Will reattempt disassembly and if successful post a pix.
No worries JPG, I am all set. Don't bother disassembling yours. It can be a pain to get back together.
I used your dimensions, the greenie part, and some wild ass guesses. It came out perfect, mates up precisely with the aluminum rail and works like a charm.
Thanks JPG,
Mike -
Re: Shaper/Sander Fence Bolts
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:21 am
by StevenAyres
chapmanruss wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 1:19 pmWhich version does the Mark VII use?
I haven't seen an extension made specifically for the MVII, and I'd like to know if one exists. I've modified the rail on mine to take the MV extension.
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