Refurbishing a MkV 510
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Re: Refurbishing a MkV 510
Someone mentioned using PVC pipe slightly larger than your tubes to create a bath for them. Get the right diameter pipe, glue on an end cap, slip your pipe inside, fill it with the rust remover, and let it soak. You can reuse the evapo-rust for some time.
I restored a 1962 Model 500 that had very rusty way tubes using the electrolysis method and a length of PVC gutter. The results were amazing and the process kind of fun to witness (i used rebar for electrodes), but it was probably more work than using the chemical approach. I ended up using electrolysis for all sorts of parts on that machine; I even used it on the leg panels, placing them in a big plastic garbage can with four rebars wired together around the perimeter for electrodes. The bubbling action of the electrolysis loosened up the old paint, and with just a light clean up with a scotch pad, they were ready to be primed and then coated with rustoleum hammer-finish paint. I was very pleased with the result.
I restored a 1962 Model 500 that had very rusty way tubes using the electrolysis method and a length of PVC gutter. The results were amazing and the process kind of fun to witness (i used rebar for electrodes), but it was probably more work than using the chemical approach. I ended up using electrolysis for all sorts of parts on that machine; I even used it on the leg panels, placing them in a big plastic garbage can with four rebars wired together around the perimeter for electrodes. The bubbling action of the electrolysis loosened up the old paint, and with just a light clean up with a scotch pad, they were ready to be primed and then coated with rustoleum hammer-finish paint. I was very pleased with the result.
Re: Refurbishing a MkV 510
Arbor Questions,
Ive cleaned up all that I found, but I'm not sure what I have, looking for some wisdom from the group. looks like 2 large bore for Shopsmith blades, one longer than the other. The rest are all 5/8 bore.
Thanks
J
Ive cleaned up all that I found, but I'm not sure what I have, looking for some wisdom from the group. looks like 2 large bore for Shopsmith blades, one longer than the other. The rest are all 5/8 bore.
Thanks
J
Re: Refurbishing a MkV 510
The two 'large bore' ones are SS blade arbors. SS saw blades have a 1 1/4" arbor hole. The other three are universal/molder/dado blade arbors. They are missing some of the washers. Each one should have a thick spacer and two thin washers and a locking tongue washer.
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... arbors.htm
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... oarbor.htm
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... arbors.htm
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... oarbor.htm
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Re: Refurbishing a MkV 510
Thanks, I'll keep digging thru and look for the other parts. Couple of questions, is there a special purpose for the long vs short SS arbor? and, as those 5/8 ones appear to be dado type, I presume I'd need something else to run a 5/8 bore regular blade? found several in with the stuff.jsburger wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:04 pm The two 'large bore' ones are SS blade arbors. SS saw blades have a 1 1/4" arbor hole. The other three are universal/molder/dado blade arbors. They are missing some of the washers. Each one should have a thick spacer and two thin washers and a locking tongue washer.
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... arbors.htm
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... oarbor.htm
Thanks
Re: Refurbishing a MkV 510
The longer saw blade arbors are for compatibility with the 510 and on lower saw guard. The shorter ones are for 500 and prior lower saw guard. I've used those 5/8" dado/molder arbors with saw blades before, but I think the dedicated 5/8 saw arbor is a better choice. (Here again for the 5/8" saw blade arbor, there is a longer and shorter version for the different lower saw guards.)John4337 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:41 pmThanks, I'll keep digging thru and look for the other parts. Couple of questions, is there a special purpose for the long vs short SS arbor? and, as those 5/8 ones appear to be dado type, I presume I'd need something else to run a 5/8 bore regular blade? found several in with the stuff.jsburger wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:04 pm The two 'large bore' ones are SS blade arbors. SS saw blades have a 1 1/4" arbor hole. The other three are universal/molder/dado blade arbors. They are missing some of the washers. Each one should have a thick spacer and two thin washers and a locking tongue washer.
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... arbors.htm
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... oarbor.htm
Thanks
- David
Re: Refurbishing a MkV 510
Ok, makes sense, perhaps my dad upgraded to the 510 spec at some point.DLB wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:52 pmThe longer saw blade arbors are for compatibility with the 510 and on lower saw guard. The shorter ones are for 500 and prior lower saw guard. I've used those 5/8" dado/molder arbors with saw blades before, but I think the dedicated 5/8 saw arbor is a better choice. (Here again for the 5/8" saw blade arbor, there is a longer and shorter version for the different lower saw guards.)John4337 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:41 pmThanks, I'll keep digging thru and look for the other parts. Couple of questions, is there a special purpose for the long vs short SS arbor? and, as those 5/8 ones appear to be dado type, I presume I'd need something else to run a 5/8 bore regular blade? found several in with the stuff.jsburger wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:04 pm The two 'large bore' ones are SS blade arbors. SS saw blades have a 1 1/4" arbor hole. The other three are universal/molder/dado blade arbors. They are missing some of the washers. Each one should have a thick spacer and two thin washers and a locking tongue washer.
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... arbors.htm
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... oarbor.htm
Thanks
- David
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Re: Refurbishing a MkV 510
Here is information I have put together to help identify the different Arbors made for the Shopsmith Tools over the years beginning in 1947. The first picture below is the different 5/8" Arbors made over the years and their part numbers. Note that some arbors had more than one part number and some had different versions under the same part number.
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Below is the different 1/2" Arbors on the top row and the different 1-1/4" Arbors plus the Biscuit Jointer Arbor on the bottom row.
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The PDF below lists the different Arbors and their descriptions. It also includes Shaper Spindles and Router Chucks shown below the PDF. Other Arbors listed in the PDF are not pictured here.
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Below is the different 1/2" Arbors on the top row and the different 1-1/4" Arbors plus the Biscuit Jointer Arbor on the bottom row.
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The PDF below lists the different Arbors and their descriptions. It also includes Shaper Spindles and Router Chucks shown below the PDF. Other Arbors listed in the PDF are not pictured here.
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Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Re: Refurbishing a MkV 510
Wow Russ!!! That's an incredibly helpful compilation of information. Thanks.
Marc Jones
Model 10ER (1952), s/n: 72883 (MickyD restored in 2009/10) / Variable Speed Changer / A-34 Jigsaw / Jointer-Shaper Fence
Mark 5 Model 500 (1955), s/n: 309828 (MickyD restored in 2008/09) / Magna Jigsaw Model 610, s/n 65001 / Yuba 11” Bandsaw Model 630, s/n 39807 / Magna Jointer Model 620, s/n 17792 (restored in 2021) / Magna 6” Belt Sander Model 640, s/n 13742 (to be restored)
Professional Planer Model M5082, s/n 003918
DC3300 Dust Collector (circa 1998)
Model 10ER (1952), s/n: 72883 (MickyD restored in 2009/10) / Variable Speed Changer / A-34 Jigsaw / Jointer-Shaper Fence
Mark 5 Model 500 (1955), s/n: 309828 (MickyD restored in 2008/09) / Magna Jigsaw Model 610, s/n 65001 / Yuba 11” Bandsaw Model 630, s/n 39807 / Magna Jointer Model 620, s/n 17792 (restored in 2021) / Magna 6” Belt Sander Model 640, s/n 13742 (to be restored)
Professional Planer Model M5082, s/n 003918
DC3300 Dust Collector (circa 1998)
Re: Refurbishing a MkV 510
That's great stuff, clear I still have a lot of homework to do on this thing. Thank you very much.
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Re: Refurbishing a MkV 510
Amazing research effort on these arbors. We all benefit by your work. Thank you Mr. Chapman!
I continue to be impressed by the amount of useful information donated here by the members of this forum. May it continue.
I continue to be impressed by the amount of useful information donated here by the members of this forum. May it continue.
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