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I have heard rumors that Remarms was not warrantying anything from Remington , this stock is from a 870 express , it is only a year and a
week or so old , the gun was stored in a controlled environment has had less than a 1/2 box of shells through it . purchase date was 12-30-2020 the repair was made using Gorilla glue , will post the final results when the finish dries .

What kind of wood is that? Or, is it even wood? That's sad. I have an old Marlin 12 gauge made in the early 1900s. It has a beautiful walnut stock that has no cracks or any other flaws after 100 years. They knew how to make them back then.

garys wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:59 pm What kind of wood is that? Or, is it even wood? That's sad. I have an old Marlin 12 gauge made in the early 1900s. It has a beautiful walnut stock that has no cracks or any other flaws after 100 years. They knew how to make them back then.

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My dad has a Winchester double barrel 12ga from 1878 and the wood is not cracked either ,150 years old , not sure on the type of wood , I can say the growth rings are very thick, I can say it is pale to white in color , the wood was 1/4 sawn , it appears to be beech , maybe , it appears too soft to be beech, I can say it does not seem to be a good hardwood , I dont know any other tree in the US that gets big enough to 1/4 saw and the growth rings be this wide but beech , it does not seem hard enough to be beech though, it is not walnut and definitely not a quality piece. it is obvious this is not a stock made by a craftsman . the trouble with the new machine made stuff now , is , a craftsman would have noticed the poor quality of the wood and not used it .
A new wood stock from one of Remington's last warranty repair shops was 150.00 and may be just as bad . totaling the price of the gun value over its actual worth . If you purchase a new Remington be sure it says RemArms or there will be no warranty , was told this by calling the warranty repair number .

This is the quality made in 1910.

When men made stuff that last !!

you can see the original wood color in the picture of the end grain .

That might be maple. It was commonly used on the lower priced models for stocks.

garys wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:51 pm This is the quality made in 1910.
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Yes quality was much better then because the craftsmen had pride in their work. As far as the material is concerned it was much better in the 19th and early 20th centuries because there was still some old growth wood available.

High quality wood is still available if you are willing to pay for it. Some years back, I decided to replace the stock on one of my rifles with a nicer stock. I simply stopped by my local wood supplier and picked out a nice piece of walnut and made this stock myself. Most of the work was done on the Shopsmith bandsaw and belt sander. I don't have a picture of the original one, but it was a cheaper piece of maple and was not nearly as nice as the new walnut one.
Many hours or hand sanding went into this one.