Share your Magna memorabilia!
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- chapmanruss
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Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
I have the "Special" Miter also.
DarrenDD,
When looking at ads of the "Greenie" Mark 5 Miters for sale check the bar. If it doesn't look quite right, it may be the "Special" Miter for the Model 10's. As we know not all sellers of parts or even whole machines are the best at listing what they have correctly. This "Special" Miter looks like a Mark 5 "Greenie" one until you look at the bar's difference. Now that being said be careful not to mistake the Model 10 "Special" Miter with the one for the Mark 2 "Greenie" which looks similar. The Mark 2 Miter has a shorter bar than the "Special" or Mark 5 Miter. There is not a hole on the end of the bar for the Universal Hold Down Kit nor is there the slot and set screw for locking it in place. The Model 10 has a different size Miter bar (width and height) than the Mark tools have. In the picture below is a Model 10 "Special" Miter with the Safety Grip on the left and a Mark 2 Miter on the right.
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Sorry I was going to include a Mark 5 "Greenie" Miter for comparison but the three I have are currently disassembled for restoration.
Another difference for the Mark 2 Miter is there are no stops for the angles like there is on the Mark 5 and Model 10 "Special" Miters. Those stops can be seen in John's picture of the bottom of the Miter's Protractor.
DarrenDD,
When looking at ads of the "Greenie" Mark 5 Miters for sale check the bar. If it doesn't look quite right, it may be the "Special" Miter for the Model 10's. As we know not all sellers of parts or even whole machines are the best at listing what they have correctly. This "Special" Miter looks like a Mark 5 "Greenie" one until you look at the bar's difference. Now that being said be careful not to mistake the Model 10 "Special" Miter with the one for the Mark 2 "Greenie" which looks similar. The Mark 2 Miter has a shorter bar than the "Special" or Mark 5 Miter. There is not a hole on the end of the bar for the Universal Hold Down Kit nor is there the slot and set screw for locking it in place. The Model 10 has a different size Miter bar (width and height) than the Mark tools have. In the picture below is a Model 10 "Special" Miter with the Safety Grip on the left and a Mark 2 Miter on the right.
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Sorry I was going to include a Mark 5 "Greenie" Miter for comparison but the three I have are currently disassembled for restoration.
Another difference for the Mark 2 Miter is there are no stops for the angles like there is on the Mark 5 and Model 10 "Special" Miters. Those stops can be seen in John's picture of the bottom of the Miter's Protractor.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
- JPG
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Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
I have to mention the often inclusion of a wing bolt with M10 miter gauges. I have assumed this is to secure the stop rod.
Any alternative explanation?
Any alternative explanation?
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Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
You are correct! It is to secure the stop rod. In fact, the mid-50’s stop rods were packaged with wing bolts to fit both the Mark 5 and 10ER miters.
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John Dalton
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
- chapmanruss
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Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
JPG,
You said
You said
I don't know of any alternative use for the wing bolt.I have to mention the often inclusion of a wing bolt with M10 miter gauges. I have assumed this is to secure the stop rod.
Any alternative explanation?
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
Russ,chapmanruss wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:49 am I have the "Special" Miter also.
DarrenDD,
When looking at ads of the "Greenie" Mark 5 Miters for sale check the bar. If it doesn't look quite right, it may be the "Special" Miter for the Model 10's.
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10 special miter and Mark 2 miter.jpg
Thanks for the tip, will keep my eyes peeled for that.
Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
PROTECTIVE CANVAS COVER
PART NO. 183-1
I’ve seen a number of postings where fellow collectors here have been fortunate to have an original old canvas cover be included with their Model 10 purchase. And of course those generally are in pretty rough shape after faithfully discharging their duties in the shop for so many decades... Greasy, torn, and faded are the typical words that describe these.
I’d never stumbled on one of these covers in any sort of condition until last weekend, and it was worth the wait!! A gentleman was looking for advice on the main Shopsmith group for best options to sell his father-in-law’s 10-ER - and while the machine itself was in rough shape, there was the cover… sitting on top…in its original box… wow!
Until that gentleman pulled it out of the box to take a picture for me to show condition, it likely had never even been out. The material is stiff like brand-new canvas, the folds are crisp, and the logo is brilliant. Very thrilled to have this in the collection.
And I’ll tell you this: the price has certainly appreciated a bit from the original $3.75 retail!
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PART NO. 183-1
I’ve seen a number of postings where fellow collectors here have been fortunate to have an original old canvas cover be included with their Model 10 purchase. And of course those generally are in pretty rough shape after faithfully discharging their duties in the shop for so many decades... Greasy, torn, and faded are the typical words that describe these.
I’d never stumbled on one of these covers in any sort of condition until last weekend, and it was worth the wait!! A gentleman was looking for advice on the main Shopsmith group for best options to sell his father-in-law’s 10-ER - and while the machine itself was in rough shape, there was the cover… sitting on top…in its original box… wow!
Until that gentleman pulled it out of the box to take a picture for me to show condition, it likely had never even been out. The material is stiff like brand-new canvas, the folds are crisp, and the logo is brilliant. Very thrilled to have this in the collection.
And I’ll tell you this: the price has certainly appreciated a bit from the original $3.75 retail!
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John Dalton
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
Excellent find!jpdalton wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:06 am
Until that gentleman pulled it out of the box to take a picture for me to show condition, it likely had never even been out. The material is stiff like brand-new canvas, the folds are crisp, and the logo is brilliant. Very thrilled to have this in the collection.
Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
Thanks! It certainly is rare to still be new in box. Others saw the post before I did, but no one commented on this item. I guess they just thought it was a more common box of lathe tools - I did too initially, until I zoomed in…
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John Dalton
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
- chapmanruss
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Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
Nice addition to your collection John. I have one that came in the box that looked like it had never been used until I started using it to cover my first Model 10 restoration. It can be seen in the picture below taken almost 8 years ago. Interesting that the one I have does not have the SS Logo.
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I no longer have the Model 10ER or 10E to the left of it. That was many restorations ago.
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I no longer have the Model 10ER or 10E to the left of it. That was many restorations ago.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
Russ - do you still have the box your cover came in?? I’d be curious to see if the markings on it are the same.chapmanruss wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:25 pm I have one that came in the box that looked like it had never been used until I started using it to cover my first Model 10 restoration.
John Dalton
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)