Mark VII a start and a long ways to go..

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Re: Mark VII a start and a long ways to go..

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JPG wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:49 am A wide MVII (14 rib) poly-v belt is available on line from Band Saw Tire Warehouse. I may have influenced him to get some made, so i would appreciate it if you would purchase one(or two).

Motor belt proper length is a bit murky.

I DO recommend having a spare.
I will do that. I usually carry spare consumables as well if I plan on a lot of machine hours.
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JPG wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 11:13 pm The parts that attach to the lock that provide interlocking of the switch between fwd and rev.
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Well no, he doesn’t have that part but I’m 80% there so will keep looking. Worse case I’ll try and make one. This has proved to be a much more difficult adventure than I anticipated but I’m retired so I have time to look around. Thanks
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Mike wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:53 pm
JPG wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 11:13 pm The parts that attach to the lock that provide interlocking of the switch between fwd and rev.
MVII lock attachments.jpg
Well no, he doesn’t have that part but I’m 80% there so will keep looking. Worse case I’ll try and make one. This has proved to be a much more difficult adventure than I anticipated but I’m retired so I have time to look around. Thanks
Mike, I think I got you covered for this part. It will be very difficult to fabricate if you don't already have one to use as a template. I imagine finding one sold separately is nearly impossible? It also has a 3/16" (overall) offset bent into the plate that I can't bend, but I should be able to machine the offset. I'm going to give it shot. You're going to need the parts in the bottom two pictures, 2- thin nuts (one for the lock bezel, one to attach the interlock plate), the spacers, and the screws. I can provide dimensions when needed.

80% done means we need some progress pics. ;)

Mike -
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miken wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:10 pm
Mike wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:53 pm
JPG wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 11:13 pm The parts that attach to the lock that provide interlocking of the switch between fwd and rev.
MVII lock attachments.jpg
Well no, he doesn’t have that part but I’m 80% there so will keep looking. Worse case I’ll try and make one. This has proved to be a much more difficult adventure than I anticipated but I’m retired so I have time to look around. Thanks
Mike, I think I got you covered for this part. It will be very difficult to fabricate if you don't already have one to use as a template. I imagine finding one sold separately is nearly impossible? It also has a 3/16" (overall) offset bent into the plate that I can't bend, but I should be able to machine the offset. I'm going to give it shot. You're going to need the parts in the bottom two pictures, 2- thin nuts (one for the lock bezel, one to attach the interlock plate), the spacers, and the screws. I can provide dimensions when needed.

80% done means we need some progress pics. ;)

Mike -
Mike that would be most excellent if you could accomplish that mechanical miracle:-) of course we need to work something out on it for payment because… well just because:-)

I wish 80% complete LOL the 80% was the percentage of the keyed lockout assembly I have. I’m still waiting on the powder coater who was supposed to be done last Friday. Still polishing parts and my lil bro is coming to visit for a week starting tomorrow. Guessing new pics in a couple weeks. So let me know how it is going and thank you for the very kind offer.
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BTW MIKE: did you get a key to go with the lock? (and does it work?)

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JPG wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:49 am A wide MVII (14 rib) poly-v belt is available on line from Band Saw Tire Warehouse. I may have influenced him to get some made, so i would appreciate it if you would purchase one(or two).

Motor belt proper length is a bit murky.

I DO recommend having a spare.
JPG- I found the belt on eBay but it states (13 rib) ? Is this the correct one? Thanks!!
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JPG wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:42 am BTW MIKE: did you get a key to go with the lock? (and does it work?)

No key, was gonna file down something and maybe see if it will work. I knew this key set up and all the awkward wiring were gonna be the biggest head ache for sure. So slow and steady, steady and slow be the way I go...















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JPG wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:42 am . . . MIKEN thee does good work with a ''German" Milling Machine* . . . * file
Thanks JPG, yes, the only real milling on this was splitting the steel in half two ways to create the offset, and the slotted hole. The rest was good ol' fashioned hack saw and files. Thanks for noticing.

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Mike wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:10 pm . . . No key, was gonna file down something and maybe see if it will work. I knew this key set up and all the awkward wiring were gonna be the biggest head ache for sure. So slow and steady, steady and slow be the way I go...
Well, you can cross the interlock plate off the list. Done and fit tested. Works.
Hard to see in the picture, but it's in there and functions properly. As for the key, I have two machines with two different keys. Can't help you there, but maybe a locksmith can make you a key?
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ShopSmith Mark VII (400457), (working backup or parts machine)
12" Craftsman Band Saw (113.243311)
12" Craftsman Powered Hacksaw (108.1501)
12" Atlas Commercial (3990) 12" Back Geared, Undermount, Screw Cutting Lathe with Quick Change Gear Box, Taper, Milling and Grinding Attachments
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Take the lock barrels to any good locksmith and they will be able to cut keys for those barrels. I've had it done a few times.
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