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Date access hole added to Greenie headstock

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 11:28 am
by mickyd
bucksaw wrote:The headstock cases I bought off eBay for replacement came with the newer medallion style with the spring as pictured . I left the old medallion with the old case in case I ever use it again.

Does anyone know what year the medallion access hole was added to the headstock casing? I'm curious.

Even narrowing the question down further, what year / month.

judapre1982 SN is 303185, which means it was made between Aug/Sept 1955 and has NO access hole.

My SN 309828 Oct/Nov 1955 production run HAS the access hole.

Assuming we both have original headstock castings, this would say that the access hole was added somewhere very close to 3rd quarter 1955.

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:19 pm
by mickyd
etc92guy wrote:I have a "Greenie" made in late 1956. It has the "factory" hole with the prongs cast in it.

Curiously, I only have two screws that hold the belt guard on vs. MickeyD's six(?) screws. Wonder when that changed?

I wonder if they went from 6 screws to only 2 screws to solve the problem I had with the way tube hole in the belt cover rubbing up against the top of the way tube as shown in my post 194? JPG also said his "Goldie" only had two screws holding the belt cover on in his post 210.

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 2:26 pm
by johnmccrossen
I noticed that item # 4 on this supplement pdf file confirms that the 3" hole was added in 1955. (This takes a little while to open) John McCrossen

http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/prod ... lement.pdf

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 2:45 pm
by JPG
Also of unknown date of change, is the linkage plate from the switch down to the speed control. I seem to recall this is to prevent turning off the SS when set to higher speeds and has been used to explain the purpose of the notch on the rear of the speed control dial. Anybody know the REAL story??? Anybody actually have one of these???

Grease leaking out of bearing

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:33 pm
by mickyd
When I had my belt cover off, I notice the brand new drive sleeve assembly bearing oozed some lubricant. The unit has only been run for about 1 minute since the bearing was installed. Concern? Wrong type of bearing?

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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:42 pm
by judaspre1982
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:53 pm
by bucksaw
etc92guy wrote:I have a "Greenie" made in late 1956. It has the "factory" hole with the prongs cast in it.

Curiously, I only have two screws that hold the belt guard on vs. MickeyD's six(?) screws. Wonder when that changed?
Do you know the history of the saw or are you going off the serial number. You might have an upgraded headstock casing and whoever replaced the casing transferred the serial number plate to the new casing (that's what I did).

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:59 pm
by bucksaw
mickyd wrote:When I had my belt cover off, I notice the brand new drive sleeve assembly bearing oozed some lubricant. The unit has only been run for about 1 minute since the bearing was installed. Concern? Wrong type of bearing?

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A little leakage is normal. The metal seals on the bearing are not air tight and as the bearing heats up some grease may push out. You could probably eliminate the grease seeping with 2r seals.

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:04 pm
by bucksaw
judaspre1982 wrote:Mike , where did you get the replacement bearing for the drive shaft? Where is the knurled bearing keeper that goes on the quill shaft? Do not run the machine without the bearing keeper on the shaft.---Dave
What image are you looking at? This is the drive end of the headstock in the posted picture. The bearing spring washer is in place.

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:18 pm
by mickyd
judaspre1982 wrote:Mike , where did you get the replacement bearing for the drive shaft? Where is the knurled bearing keeper that goes on the quill shaft? Do not run the machine without the bearing keeper on the shaft.---Dave

Got the bearing at an industrial supply store here in San Diego. Why?
If your calling this:

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the bearing keeper, it's mounted on the quill end. If you mean something else that should have been shown on the photo with the oozing bearing, I don't have anything and need to know what it is that I am missing.