Inexpensive Dust Collector Remote Switch

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Inexpensive Dust Collector Remote Switch

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I bought an inexpensive remote switch to test with my DC3300 a couple months back, it's currently $15, I paid a little less, figured that was a cheap gamble and I'd find some other use for it if it didn't work out. I finally got a round tuit and got it installed the other day. I'm glad to report that it works fine with the DC3300, can't guess if it would work with the higher draw of the DC6000 or other brands of dust collectors. I did have a minor hiccup when pairing the remote to the outlet, I probably just didn't push the remote's button hard enough or long enough, but the second try worked fine.

Over the weekend, I was enlarging the holes on my Kreg table via a brand new jig from Benchdogs that generated a bunch of MDF dust. After every few holes, I would power up the DC and clean up then turn it back off and continue, probably a dozen or more times, not a single issue turning it on or off.

I bought the "Fosmon WavePoint Wireless Remote Control Outdoor Electrical Outlet Switch Weatherproof Heavy Duty 3-Prong Plug-in ETL Listed (Battery Included) 1 Pack." Here's the Amazon link, if interested: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072F9DGRL
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The current rating is not robust, but it has a 1/2 HP rating.

Time will tell!
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I've had the same one for about ten months and have had no issues using it with DC-6000. I paid $13.25. I do see some now with higher motor ratings (15A 2.4 HP), but not great customer reviews despite a much higher price. Agree - time will tell.

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If the current rating is an issue, you could get a 120v-coil contactor for another $10-$15 that can handle 30+ amps and use the remote switch to trigger the contactor.
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john_001 wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:47 pm If the current rating is an issue, you could get a 120v-coil contactor for another $10-$15 that can handle 30+ amps and use the remote switch to trigger the contactor.
JPG wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:05 pm OR...https://www.amazon.com/SSR-25AA-70-250V ... RydWU&th=1
I wouldn't really recommend these approaches. While the DC-3300 is a rather light load due to its small motor, you do have to be careful with switching inductive loads like this using just a relay/contactor. Using such an approach can create a large negative voltage transient that potentially could harm the DC-3300. This is why they make motor starters which include circuitry to suppress inductive load spikes, i.e. they aren't just relays/switches. Larger motors even have arc suppression and are usually magnetic to provide safe dis-engagement should the power fail and re-engage later. The Amazon device first posted on this thread is most likely all solid state, i.e. no internal relays. As such, it likely has built in OV and transient protection. It may even have soft start capability. In short, assuming it has enough current capacity for the DC-3300 load, you shouldn't need to add any external circuitry and most likely adding a relay would only create problems IMHO.

http://www.artisancontrols.com/UtilityI ... 0Loads.pdf

https://www.ciprian.com/wp-content/uplo ... -loads.pdf

https://www.palmerdcs.com/the-integrato ... rotection.

For larger dust collectors, this is what you need, but overkill for something like the DC-3300:

https://www.pennstateind.com/store/LR22 ... wgEALw_wcB
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" As such, it likely has built in OV and transient protection."

Indeed it does!
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JPG wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:48 pm " As such, it likely has built in OV and transient protection."

Indeed it does!
JPG,

Thanks. I was referring to the original remote switch posted by Roy, but yes your link was for a solid state relay, which isn't really a relay except in circuit diagram perhaps. I just didn't want anyone to think it is a good idea to put a traditional mechanical relay on the remote switch, IF it doesn't have enough current capacity. That would not be a good idea for an inductive load like the DC-3300.
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Most SSR of this genre typically have a 3-32v dc control side. This one is more suitable as a 'booster' since 120v ac will work as the control.
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