10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?
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10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?
Hey Woodworkers!
First time post and I need some guidance.
While advancing my bowl turning skills, the nut from the speed changer kept falling off. I screwed it back on...ran the machine...and it would fall off again...so, looked...and touched it...it wiggled...took off the belts, unscrewed the set screws...slid it off...noticed the inside of the speed changer pulley was warped...the copper looking sleeve looked damaged (watch Youtube video please). So, is there a sleeve to replace it? or do I need a new speed changer?
I picked up this machine a few years ago...and have slowly built my shop up to begin turning bowls...love it...expect I am worried now I will destroy it if I keep running it without addressing this situation. I suspect I was turning bowls too fast...or it simply wore out.[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A8m07y1Q_gk[/youtube]
First time post and I need some guidance.
While advancing my bowl turning skills, the nut from the speed changer kept falling off. I screwed it back on...ran the machine...and it would fall off again...so, looked...and touched it...it wiggled...took off the belts, unscrewed the set screws...slid it off...noticed the inside of the speed changer pulley was warped...the copper looking sleeve looked damaged (watch Youtube video please). So, is there a sleeve to replace it? or do I need a new speed changer?
I picked up this machine a few years ago...and have slowly built my shop up to begin turning bowls...love it...expect I am worried now I will destroy it if I keep running it without addressing this situation. I suspect I was turning bowls too fast...or it simply wore out.[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A8m07y1Q_gk[/youtube]
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Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?
That has a bronze bushing bearing. Yours needs to be replaced - may need a press to do that. In any event do not breakit!!!
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Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?
The sintered bronze bushings need to be replace. Hard to believe they are worn that bad.
They are not an off the shelf item.
There is an off the shelf item that can be machined to fit. The only two people that have supplied them that I know of are Hogwinslow and Skip Campbell. Hogwinslow used to have a web site but I can't find it now. The email I have for him is Hogwinslow@gmail.com. Skips web site does not currently list them but he used to sell them. His web site is mkctools.com. I would contact him.
Also, any good machine shop should be able to source the bushings and machine them to fit. However, cost might be an issue for you. What ever you do DO NOT through out the speed changer. Someone will want it including me.
They are not an off the shelf item.
There is an off the shelf item that can be machined to fit. The only two people that have supplied them that I know of are Hogwinslow and Skip Campbell. Hogwinslow used to have a web site but I can't find it now. The email I have for him is Hogwinslow@gmail.com. Skips web site does not currently list them but he used to sell them. His web site is mkctools.com. I would contact him.
Also, any good machine shop should be able to source the bushings and machine them to fit. However, cost might be an issue for you. What ever you do DO NOT through out the speed changer. Someone will want it including me.
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Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?
Here you go,
https://www.ebay.com/itm/322384383062?m ... media=COPY
Bought a couple pairs in the past and they work great.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/322384383062?m ... media=COPY
Bought a couple pairs in the past and they work great.
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Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?
The link Darren provided above is the best source and one that John referenced. I have used hogwinslow1960's Speed Changer Oilite Bearings for replacements of worn ones and keep an extra set too just in case. The bearings come in pairs and replace both.
As John said DO NOT throw out your Speed Changer. This can be fixed and even if it could not, parts of it could still be used for replacements on other Speed Changers. There are only so many left and new OEM parts are not available.
As John said DO NOT throw out your Speed Changer. This can be fixed and even if it could not, parts of it could still be used for replacements on other Speed Changers. There are only so many left and new OEM parts are not available.
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Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?
Guessing a welder friend might have access to a press that could help me?
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Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?
Great! Ordered a couple now and eager to get back to turning! Thank you.DarrenDD wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:03 am Here you go,
https://www.ebay.com/itm/322384383062?m ... media=COPY
Bought a couple pairs in the past and they work great.
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Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?
Thanks for sharing. I ordered two pairs from Hogwinslow. Previously, Skip has helped me with a tool rest replacement so I did I reach out to Skip last week and have not heard back from him.jsburger wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:59 pm The sintered bronze bushings need to be replace. Hard to believe they are worn that bad.
They are not an off the shelf item.
There is an off the shelf item that can be machined to fit. The only two people that have supplied them that I know of are Hogwinslow and Skip Campbell. Hogwinslow used to have a web site but I can't find it now. The email I have for him is Hogwinslow@gmail.com. Skips web site does not currently list them but he used to sell them. His web site is mkctools.com. I would contact him.
Also, any good machine shop should be able to source the bushings and machine them to fit. However, cost might be an issue for you. What ever you do DO NOT through out the speed changer. Someone will want it including me.
Poppa Steinie
Good Trouble Workshop
Creating manglitter since 2020!
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Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?
The ones I have replaced did not require a press. An appropriately sized dowel or socket and light taps works.GoodTroubleWorkshop wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:34 pmGuessing a welder friend might have access to a press that could help me?
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT