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10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:50 pm
by GoodTroubleWorkshop
Hey Woodworkers!
First time post and I need some guidance.

While advancing my bowl turning skills, the nut from the speed changer kept falling off. I screwed it back on...ran the machine...and it would fall off again...so, looked...and touched it...it wiggled...took off the belts, unscrewed the set screws...slid it off...noticed the inside of the speed changer pulley was warped...the copper looking sleeve looked damaged (watch Youtube video please). So, is there a sleeve to replace it? or do I need a new speed changer?

I picked up this machine a few years ago...and have slowly built my shop up to begin turning bowls...love it...expect I am worried now I will destroy it if I keep running it without addressing this situation. I suspect I was turning bowls too fast...or it simply wore out.[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A8m07y1Q_gk[/youtube]

Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:27 pm
by JPG
That has a bronze bushing bearing. Yours needs to be replaced - may need a press to do that. In any event do not breakit!!!

Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:59 pm
by jsburger
The sintered bronze bushings need to be replace. Hard to believe they are worn that bad.

They are not an off the shelf item.

There is an off the shelf item that can be machined to fit. The only two people that have supplied them that I know of are Hogwinslow and Skip Campbell. Hogwinslow used to have a web site but I can't find it now. The email I have for him is Hogwinslow@gmail.com. Skips web site does not currently list them but he used to sell them. His web site is mkctools.com. I would contact him.

Also, any good machine shop should be able to source the bushings and machine them to fit. However, cost might be an issue for you. What ever you do DO NOT through out the speed changer. Someone will want it including me.

Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:03 am
by DarrenDD
Here you go,

https://www.ebay.com/itm/322384383062?m ... media=COPY

Bought a couple pairs in the past and they work great.

Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 2:23 pm
by chapmanruss
The link Darren provided above is the best source and one that John referenced. I have used hogwinslow1960's Speed Changer Oilite Bearings for replacements of worn ones and keep an extra set too just in case. The bearings come in pairs and replace both.

As John said DO NOT throw out your Speed Changer. This can be fixed and even if it could not, parts of it could still be used for replacements on other Speed Changers. There are only so many left and new OEM parts are not available.

Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:34 pm
by GoodTroubleWorkshop
JPG wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:27 pm That has a bronze bushing bearing. Yours needs to be replaced - may need a press to do that. In any event do not breakit!!!
Guessing a welder friend might have access to a press that could help me?

Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:35 pm
by GoodTroubleWorkshop
DarrenDD wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:03 am Here you go,

https://www.ebay.com/itm/322384383062?m ... media=COPY

Bought a couple pairs in the past and they work great.
Great! Ordered a couple now and eager to get back to turning! Thank you.

Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:40 pm
by GoodTroubleWorkshop
jsburger wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:59 pm The sintered bronze bushings need to be replace. Hard to believe they are worn that bad.

They are not an off the shelf item.

There is an off the shelf item that can be machined to fit. The only two people that have supplied them that I know of are Hogwinslow and Skip Campbell. Hogwinslow used to have a web site but I can't find it now. The email I have for him is Hogwinslow@gmail.com. Skips web site does not currently list them but he used to sell them. His web site is mkctools.com. I would contact him.

Also, any good machine shop should be able to source the bushings and machine them to fit. However, cost might be an issue for you. What ever you do DO NOT through out the speed changer. Someone will want it including me.
Thanks for sharing. I ordered two pairs from Hogwinslow. Previously, Skip has helped me with a tool rest replacement so I did I reach out to Skip last week and have not heard back from him.

Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:44 pm
by jsburger
GoodTroubleWorkshop wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:34 pm
JPG wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:27 pm That has a bronze bushing bearing. Yours needs to be replaced - may need a press to do that. In any event do not breakit!!!
Guessing a welder friend might have access to a press that could help me?
The ones I have replaced did not require a press. An appropriately sized dowel or socket and light taps works.

Re: 10ER Speed Changer- warped...new sleeve?

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:01 pm
by DarrenDD
jsburger wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:44 pm The ones I have replaced did not require a press. An appropriately sized dowel or socket and light taps works.
…I had the same experience, twice.