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Old school Mark VII interchangeability with Mark V ?

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:30 pm
by Mike
Slowly working my way back into shop and sorting out/downsizing. Going to keep Mark VII, Mark V Shorty and 10ER for sure.
Want to make the Mark VII as user friendly as possible. So asking the experts here if the parts shown in pic will fit the Mark VII?
I have mine torn apart right now but measured distance between center of tubes best I could and they appear to be same. Looks like it could work.
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Thank you for any and all comments.

Re: Old school Mark VII interchangeability with Mark V ?

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:08 pm
by chapmanruss
Mike,

I am not an expert on the old Mark VII but I do know parts from the Mark V are interchangeable. As I understand it the Way Tubes have the same spacing and a Mark V Headstock will fit on a Mark VII frame. The picture you show is the Main Table and Carriage for the Mark V 510/505. As a complete assembly it should work fine on a Mark VII but you will have to remove the adjustment racks from the Way Tube. I don't know if there would be any problem using the Saw Blade Guard set of the Mark V 510/505 & 520 on the Mark VII.

Re: Old school Mark VII interchangeability with Mark V ?

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:16 pm
by Mike
Thanks Russ! That's what I was thinking as well but wanted to run it by experts like yourself before I committed to it.

Re: Old school Mark VII interchangeability with Mark V ?

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 5:16 pm
by lahola1
The 510 table system should work but you will lose the the double tilt of the MKVII table.

Re: Old school Mark VII interchangeability with Mark V ?

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 6:14 pm
by lahola1
I've thought about replacing my MKVII one handed table lift/lock with the MKV 2 handed rod /wingnut lock system. It's more user friendly and accurate than the MKVII. It looks doable but I haven't investigated any further.

Re: Old school Mark VII interchangeability with Mark V ?

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:59 am
by chapmanruss
lahola1,

You said,
I've thought about replacing my MKVII one handed table lift/lock with the MKV 2 handed rod /wingnut lock system. It's more user friendly and accurate than the MKVII. It looks doable but I haven't investigated any further.
The Mark V Table and Carriage can switch with the Mark VII Table/Carriage since the Mark V has the same Way Tube spacing as the Mark VII. You would have to remove the adjustment racks from the Way Tube.

Re: Old school Mark VII interchangeability with Mark V ?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 10:09 am
by JPG
+1 all that has been said except the comment re the table lock. I use one hand with the M5 and consider the MVII to be as accurate with two hands.

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Re: Old school Mark VII interchangeability with Mark V ?

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:25 pm
by lahola1
JPG wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 10:09 am +1 all that has been said except the comment re the table lock. I use one hand with the M5 and consider the MVII to be as accurate with two hands.

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JPG,
I don't know how you can adjust and lock a MKV table with one hand with its lever/wingnut lock system.

You have the later version MKVII; I have the earlier version MKVII. Maybe the later knob/wingnut lock is more user friendly. When I crank my table with crank/lock to proper height, I swing the crank/lock around to lock the table, the table usually drops before I can lock it.

Re: Old school Mark VII interchangeability with Mark V ?

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 12:19 am
by JPG
Hold lever position with small finger, tighten wing nut with thumb. Initially just tight enough to stay in position then tighten more securely. M5/MV only(not MVII). Also works with MV wheel.(small finger positioning wheel handle)

Not possible at all rotational positions of the handles*.

May work with MVII??(not enough experience).

*Wheel spoke possibly held with small finger.