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Set Up Gauge

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:32 pm
by wholeshoe
All

I purchased a setup gauge along with some other items from SS. I received them yesterday and I assume the setup gauge after seeing it is to replace using the allen wrench that the book describes for setting things.

Am I correct??

Art

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:03 am
by dusty
wholeshoe wrote:All

I purchased a setup gauge along with some other items from SS. I received them yesterday and I assume the setup gauge after seeing it is to replace using the allen wrench that the book describes for setting things.

Am I correct??

Art

Part number or picture, please.

If what you received is two aluminum rods attached together by set screws in a small aluminum bar you might be right. However, it is used, along with the miter gauge, to make repetitive cross cuts of the same length. It is a "cross cut jig".

PS The item that I was referring to above is actually called a "Miter Stop Rod" (505629) and might not be what you have. An allen wrench is sometimes used in lieu of the the stop rod during table alignment.

Need to know more about what you received to be certain.

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:16 pm
by a1gutterman
Hi Art,
What Dusty said! That is the only use that I can think of for replacing the hex wrench. You will still need the hex wrench for other functions.

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:40 pm
by JPG
wholeshoe wrote:All

I purchased a setup gauge along with some other items from SS. I received them yesterday and I assume the setup gauge after seeing it is to replace using the allen wrench that the book describes for setting things.

Am I correct??

Art
If I am correct in assuming you are referring to SS PN 555884 (Dial Setup Gauge), then YOU ARE CORRECT! It CAN be used instead of the miter gauge and hex wrench.:) :) :) :) As well as other uses.

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:07 pm
by dusty
The slightly misleading statement was

"I purchased a setup gauge along with some other items from SS. I received them yesterday and I assume the setup gauge after seeing it is to replace using the allen wrench that the book describes for setting things".

Since Shopsmith refers to the dial indicator as the dial setup gauge, you are most certainly right on, JPG. :confused: How you got past the reference to the allen wrench is what amazes me. :confused:

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:46 pm
by JPG
dusty wrote:The slightly misleading statement was

"I purchased a setup gauge along with some other items from SS. I received them yesterday and I assume the setup gauge after seeing it is to replace using the allen wrench that the book describes for setting things".

Since Shopsmith refers to the dial indicator as the dial setup gauge, you are most certainly right on, JPG. :confused: How you got past the reference to the allen wrench is what amazes me. :confused:
It took a while. I first had to get past thinking of jointer blade setup gauge. Your reference to the miter gauge stop rod got me to thinking of using it to 'setup up the table'(align to blade). At that 'aha' point the reference to the hex wrench was apparent. Still not obvious WHAT he was referring to.

When there is no obvious conclusion, we must start putting our brain in shot gun mode and NOT get too specific with the 'input'. I admit to thumbing through a SS catalog looking for 'setup gauge'. THAT is when the missing 'word' was discovered(dial). His referring to 'setting things' WAS a bit of a mis-direction(Not very specific). I had to assume 'some' of the words used were from SS(setup gauge).

So much for using scatter brained 'thinking' to reach a 'correct' but non-obvious LOGICAL conclusion.:D

P.S. is this a good example of "NON-LINEAR" 'thinking'?

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:18 pm
by dusty
I don't know if this is an example of "linear thinking" or not. I don't believe I do anything that is very linear.

What I did to try to figure out what was being discussed was a keyword search in the PDF catalog. I came up empty so I started guessing. You can now see where that got me.

However, I just did an item number search on the part number you referenced and while the dial indicator 555884 is referred to as the "dial indicator", in the text Shopsmith calls it the Dial Indicator Set-Up Gauge.

I believe you have nailed it.

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:42 pm
by JPG
dusty wrote:I don't know if this is an example of "linear thinking" or not. I don't believe I do anything that is very linear.

What I did to try to figure out what was being discussed was a keyword search in the PDF catalog. I came up empty so I started guessing. You can now see where that got me.

However, I just did an item number search on the part number you referenced and while the dial indicator 555884 is referred to as the "dial indicator", in the text Shopsmith calls it the Dial Indicator Set-Up Gauge.

I believe you have nailed it.
The old catalog in which I stumbled onto it referred to it as: Dial Set-Up Gauge.

BTW I was referring to my 'thinking' as NON linear!

I disagree with your second statement. Methinks you do many things in a linear fashion.:cool:

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:21 pm
by dusty
JPG40504 wrote:The old catalog in which I stumbled onto it referred to it as: Dial Set-Up Gauge.

BTW I was referring to my 'thinking' as NON linear!

I disagree with your second statement. Methinks you do many things in a linear fashion.:cool:
Guess I don't know linear from non-linear but that is okay. I'm not going back to school to learn.

My last experience with linear (and I don't want to repeat it) was "linear programming". It is much easier to be totally random.

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:27 pm
by wholeshoe
Apologizes for all the confusion.

The PN is 521097 and it is called a setup & alignment gauge. It is a 3" long plate of aluminum with a 90 degree lip at one end.

It cost $3.47 and when ordering a saw arbor I though why not the shipping will be the same anyway...

The thought of it replacing the allen wrench came from laying this flat on the saw table and runing the sanding disc round to see where the high spot was.

Does that help you guys? I hope so sorry for the unclear first post.

Art