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Request for Assistance
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:06 am
by dusty
I am working on a project to install a motor into the Shopsmith that would be a 110/220 VAC motor with greater horse power than the existing 1 1/8 hp motor.
For obvious reasons, I am reluctant to remove the motor from my own Mark V.
To avoid doing this, I am requesting assistance from the forum. Specifically, from anyone who has an Emerson 1 1/8 hp motor that they can take photographs of. I especially need photos of the drive pulley end of the motor.
The only thing that would be better is if someone has scrapped a motor and would be willing to part with the bell housing off that end of the motor.
Anyone who can assist can contact me either in response to this post or by PM.
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:41 pm
by cityslicker2
Dusty, don't know if this will help but I seem to recall that the Total Shop motors could be wired for either 110 or 220 and IIRC they claimed more HP than SS at the time. Don't know if any of those motors would fit in a SS however. Good luck.
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:58 pm
by ldh
dusty wrote:I am working on a project to install a motor into the Shopsmith that would be a 110/220 VAC motor with greater horse power than the existing 1 1/8 hp motor.
For obvious reasons, I am reluctant to remove the motor from my own Mark V.
To avoid doing this, I am requesting assistance from the forum. Specifically, from anyone who has an Emerson 1 1/8 hp motor that they can take photographs of. I especially need photos of the drive pulley end of the motor.
Dusty,
It sounds like you already have a motor to install that meets the 110/220 VAC and has greater than 1 1/8 hp. Post some pics of this motor for some of the old timers to see if you are barking up the wrong tree.
ldh
Shopsmith Motors
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:14 pm
by billmayo
cityslicker2 wrote:Dusty, don't know if this will help but I seem to recall that the Total Shop motors could be wired for either 110 or 220 and IIRC they claimed more HP than SS at the time. Don't know if any of those motors would fit in a SS however. Good luck.
The Total Shop 1 1/2 HP 16.8/8.4 AMP 110/220 VAC motor is a much heavier that draws more amps so it should be more HP available. The motor uses the same sheave setup as Shopsmith. Several problems, this motor has the flat 56 frame mount and is about 1 1/2" longer then the Shopsmith motor. The motor hits the carriage when mounted in the same location requiring the quill to be extended. I removed the back of the motor pan and made brackets to fit the motor to the motor pan. Eliminating the Shopsmith motor pan and attaching motor brackets to the bottom of the headstock casing dropping the motor (motor mounts are on top now) below the carriage works with a link belt but did not looks pretty.
Earlier, I had hacksawed the sheave end of the motor shaft off inside the bearing location and rotor. I modified (metal lathe) a shaft coupler to attach the sawed off shaft to a 3 HP 220VAC motor so the fan and floating sheaves was able to be used. I used heavy metal brackets attached to the bottom of the headstock casing and bolted the motor to the brackets. I used a link belt for the power. The motor was positioned just off the bench tubes so the carriage would clear it. This was an area that took a lot of trying before everything cleared. I had a problem with bending the motor brackets at that time as the motor would not stall when drilling or sawing would tend to bind the quill rotation. This setup was not pretty either.
I have more metal working equipment now days and saved all the parts and motors so I may give it another shot this year when I get bored. The 10ER motor setup has growed on me and does not look as bad now.
My final solution at that time was to buy a nice 10" table saw with a 220 VAC motor, a 7' wide table and a nice fence for all my sawing needs. I did not need more power for any of the other Shopsmith functions.
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:25 pm
by ldh
billmayo wrote:
My final solution at that time was to buy a nice 10" table saw with a 220 VAC motor, a 7' wide table and a nice fence for all my sawing needs. I did not need more power for any of the other Shopsmith functions.
Dusty,
Bill may have given you the best answer to your quest.
ldh