Trying out the flexible shaft on my 10er
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Trying out the flexible shaft on my 10er
This was a banner Xmas - I received both a free (and partially rusty) barbell weight set from my neighbors, and a shopsmith flexible shaft purchased through eBay from my wife. So to combine the two I placed the rather large wire wheel I got with my 10er and made short work of the rust on the weight set.
I stayed very close to the switch in case anything happened, with glasses and mask - but overall it was easy and I think did a marvelous job. The harder to reach crenelations and corners I got with a smaller wire brush on my hand drill. A thin wipe of 3-in-1 oil afterwards.
Overall, I'm very happy with the results. Now to go churn ice cream?
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I stayed very close to the switch in case anything happened, with glasses and mask - but overall it was easy and I think did a marvelous job. The harder to reach crenelations and corners I got with a smaller wire brush on my hand drill. A thin wipe of 3-in-1 oil afterwards.
Overall, I'm very happy with the results. Now to go churn ice cream?
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Last edited by Seezle on Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:47 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Scott E.
Scott E.
Re: Trying out the flexible shaft on my 10er
The ice cream comment made me laugh! But I'm impressed with the rust removal capabilities!
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- SteveMaryland
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Re: Trying out the flexible shaft on my 10er
I did not know Shopsmith ever sold a flex drive shaft. Some questions:
Did you get any Shopsmith instructions with it?
Who manufactured that shaft?
Is there a provision for lube? Grease or oil?
My experience with these type of shafts are that they are notoriously difficult to re-lubricate, can only be run in one rotary direction, and are speed limited.
Did you get any Shopsmith instructions with it?
Who manufactured that shaft?
Is there a provision for lube? Grease or oil?
My experience with these type of shafts are that they are notoriously difficult to re-lubricate, can only be run in one rotary direction, and are speed limited.
Mark V, Model 555510, Serial No. 102689, purchased November 1989. Upgraded to 520
Re: Trying out the flexible shaft on my 10er
Steve: Good questions - all of which are answered in John Dalton's informative post below (I'm still learning/reading up myself).
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Scott
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Scott E.
Scott E.
Re: Trying out the flexible shaft on my 10er
I never forgot that Life cover you posted years ago -- wotta Rube Goldberg of pending disaster that was!
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Scott E.
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Re: Trying out the flexible shaft on my 10er
Scott,
You found a project where the Flex Shaft shines. Handy for getting places a wire wheel cannot mounted to a motor or Headstock.
As for Steve's questions you already answered most of them with the link to John's post. The Magna Flex Shaft came out around 1950 and had been preceded by a Flex Shaft Adapter. The Flex Shaft Adapter has a 5/8" bore with a 1/2" shaft to use Flex Shafts that were available from other manufacturers at the time. Similar non-Magna Flex Shaft Adapters were available around that time too. About 1950 Magna came out with their own Flex Shaft. The attachment end on theirs is different than those of other manufacturers of the day having their 5/8" reverse tapered shaft, the same as the Headstock's Spindle. Not shown in John's pictures is the hole for the oil to be added into. Sorry I don't have a picture of that either and would have to find the Flex Shafts in the shop to take one. Still sorting out things from the move. Besides the Magna Flex Shafts, I have a Craftsman Flex Shaft. It has a 1/2" bore to connect to a motor (a popular way to use them) and the other end is threaded.
If you look at the early 1954 through 1956 Owner's Guides (1st edition through 6th) it shows the Flex Shaft in use on a Mark V Greenie. Page 17 or 19 depending on which early Owner's Guide Version you check. It is also mentioned in later Model 10ER Owner's Guides.
You found a project where the Flex Shaft shines. Handy for getting places a wire wheel cannot mounted to a motor or Headstock.
As for Steve's questions you already answered most of them with the link to John's post. The Magna Flex Shaft came out around 1950 and had been preceded by a Flex Shaft Adapter. The Flex Shaft Adapter has a 5/8" bore with a 1/2" shaft to use Flex Shafts that were available from other manufacturers at the time. Similar non-Magna Flex Shaft Adapters were available around that time too. About 1950 Magna came out with their own Flex Shaft. The attachment end on theirs is different than those of other manufacturers of the day having their 5/8" reverse tapered shaft, the same as the Headstock's Spindle. Not shown in John's pictures is the hole for the oil to be added into. Sorry I don't have a picture of that either and would have to find the Flex Shafts in the shop to take one. Still sorting out things from the move. Besides the Magna Flex Shafts, I have a Craftsman Flex Shaft. It has a 1/2" bore to connect to a motor (a popular way to use them) and the other end is threaded.
If you look at the early 1954 through 1956 Owner's Guides (1st edition through 6th) it shows the Flex Shaft in use on a Mark V Greenie. Page 17 or 19 depending on which early Owner's Guide Version you check. It is also mentioned in later Model 10ER Owner's Guides.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
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All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
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Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Re: Trying out the flexible shaft on my 10er
Here are some pics of the shaft showing one of the oil holes.
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John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Re: Trying out the flexible shaft on my 10er
So... has anyone found a flex shaft adaptor for a 5/8" spindle? I was thinking of something smaller scale like the flex shafts for hanging Dremel type tools. I'd like to use carving bits with it and attach it in drill press mode so the shaft doesn't have to bend as much like with the hanging models. There are flex shafts available, but I can't find details on the adaptors and I'm not clear how one would attach to a headstock.
Ed from Rhode Island
510 PowerPro Double Tilt:Greenie PowerPro Drill Press:500 Sanding Shorty w/Belt&Strip Sanders
Super Sawsmith 2000:Scroll Saw w/Stand:Joint-Matic:Power Station:Power Stand:Bandsaw:Joiner:Jigsaw
1961 Goldie:1960 Sawsmith RAS:10ER
510 PowerPro Double Tilt:Greenie PowerPro Drill Press:500 Sanding Shorty w/Belt&Strip Sanders
Super Sawsmith 2000:Scroll Saw w/Stand:Joint-Matic:Power Station:Power Stand:Bandsaw:Joiner:Jigsaw
1961 Goldie:1960 Sawsmith RAS:10ER
Re: Trying out the flexible shaft on my 10er
Are the ends of these shafts you have found that would attach to the spindle male or female and what size?
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Re: Trying out the flexible shaft on my 10er
A lot of them have an 1/8" rectangular end to the inner rotating shaft. That part usually is just a pressure fit into an opening in the end of the spindle. The outer non-rotating sheath usually has a female connector that screws onto fitting that's part of the motor. I don't know how the Shopsmith version attached to the 10ER. I have also seen units with a female coupling at the end of the inner rotating shaft. I think that's how the heavier shafts attach.
Ed from Rhode Island
510 PowerPro Double Tilt:Greenie PowerPro Drill Press:500 Sanding Shorty w/Belt&Strip Sanders
Super Sawsmith 2000:Scroll Saw w/Stand:Joint-Matic:Power Station:Power Stand:Bandsaw:Joiner:Jigsaw
1961 Goldie:1960 Sawsmith RAS:10ER
510 PowerPro Double Tilt:Greenie PowerPro Drill Press:500 Sanding Shorty w/Belt&Strip Sanders
Super Sawsmith 2000:Scroll Saw w/Stand:Joint-Matic:Power Station:Power Stand:Bandsaw:Joiner:Jigsaw
1961 Goldie:1960 Sawsmith RAS:10ER