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Re: New ShopSmith Owner - Goldie

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 12:43 pm
by chapmanruss
Army,

Other than having the Manual that matches your Mark 5, I would still recommend getting a newer version of the Mark V 500 manual. The one that would have come with your Mark 5 Goldie would be dated 4-61 (found on the back cover) and is only 20 pages. The parts lists and diagrams were separate from the manual at that time. The manual that would have come with your Goldie would also have the older part number that you would have to compare to a more current parts list and diagram to get current part numbers. All part numbers changed in 1964 although the parts themselves didn't change except for the black protective coating began about the same time too. A newer manual has a lot more information covered in it.

What it doesn't have is the use of the extra table slot which is the slot next to the left edge of the table shown below. The example below has some extra holes drilled in the Tabletop that were not OEM so it may look a bit different than yours.

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That slot began with the Mark 2 in the late 1950's. It was added to the Main Table as a way to adjust the width of a cut that the gap between the Main Table and the Extension table would not allow. This was a very short width and the extra slot compensated for it. It was added to the Mark 5 soon after the Mark 2 was introduced and continued on the Mark 5 until 1980.

Re: New ShopSmith Owner - Goldie

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:59 pm
by ArmySoldier72
edma194 wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:46 pm The 1989 version of PTWFE can be downloaded for free from the Shopsmith Manuals & Information page. I have hard copies of older versions, haven't looked at this latest one to see what differences there are.
ED I scoured that page looking for manuals. GREAT Catch, thank you.

Re: New ShopSmith Owner - Goldie

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:08 pm
by ArmySoldier72
chapmanruss wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 12:43 pm I would still recommend getting a newer version of the Mark V 500 manual. The one that would have come with your Mark 5 Goldie would be dated 4-61 (found on the back cover) and is only 20 pages. ...... All part numbers changed in 1964 although the parts themselves didn't change ......... A newer manual has a lot more information covered in it.

Thank you Russ, I removed some of the quotes, habit from admins on other boards slapping hands for excessive quoting.

I have been scouring the inter-webs. And so far the best I can find is folks on ebay selling binders for $60+

would the mark V manual offered on Shopsmith.com for $29.99 be the one I want?
MARK V 500 Owners Manual and Reference Guide 845435


thank you all again for the help.

Re: New ShopSmith Owner - Goldie

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:31 pm
by chapmanruss
Yes,

The MARK V 500 Owner's Manual and Reference Guide item number 845435 covers the later Mark V information and much more than would be found in the 1961 Owner's Guide. Use, except for the extra Table Slot (1959 to 1980) yours should have, would be the same. Maintenance and alignment will be nearly the same. Only slight difference because of changes to the Mark 5 and Mark V 500 over the years. One thing a newer manual will help with is in the parts lists having the more current numbers as I said before.

You could download the Mark V 520S Manual to help in the meantime. The Headstock is essentially the same so the maintenance would be too. The Table/Fence System is different so operation and alignment procedures would vary. Table system related parts like Saw Guards and some Arbors are different. The Mark V 520S has the Double Tilt Feature so some bench parts are different.

There are a few Mark V 500 related instruction sheets available for free download here on the Shopsmith website on the Manuals & Information page. There are other instruction sheets for individual items you may find helpful such as the Miter Gauge Instructions item number 845104 just know that there may be some differences due to upgrades or changes. The Miter Gauge in those instructions has the Washer for the "T" Slot not used on the Mark 5 or V 500 original Table System but is found on the later models 510/505, 520, 520S Mark 7 & 4, otherwise the instructions and use are pretty much the same.

What you have discovered is buying used is not always the better deal. I always recommend checking the new price from Shopsmith before buying used items. That includes the cost of shipping when buying used. Shopsmith has currently dropped shipping costs on most of the items it sells. There are things that the only option is buying them on the used market such as older discontinued items. I do buy used items when necessary for my restorations. My most recent used purchase is for a part I need to restore a 1947 Shopsmith Model 10E. I am also awaiting delivery of new replacement parts from Shopsmith.