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sharpening guide use
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:55 pm
by baysidebob
Not sure if this should be a new thread or not and not real sure how to phrase my question.
The sharpening guide...has kicked my B---. I have had mine for quite some time but never able to sharpen anything with it. I dedided the other day to figure out what I was doing wrong. Well after 2.5 hours working with it my B--- is still kicked.
Have gone thru my owners guide that came with it and followed to the letter as to use. On page 2 of this guide it states......the guide can be mounted either on the worktable or the extension table, depending on the tool to be sharpened. The worktable is for sharpening bench chisels an shaper cutters, while the extension table is used for sharpening lathe chisels.
So now I have watched Nick's video in Sawdust Sessions using this guide and Nick is sharpening his lathe chisels on the worktable, not the extension table.
I know some of you have this guide and like it, but could you enlighted me as to correct use of it.
I hate getting my B--- kicked by a simple tool, but I have reached my end and could use some advise......
Dusty, reading some of the other threads I think you have and use one so if you could advise I would appreciate it. Also anyone else that has something they can add.
Thanks to all hope you can straighted me out..
Sharpening Guide Use
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:27 pm
by dusty
takes some getting use to. I doubt that you are using it wrong but try to explain what problems you are having and we'll go from there.
As far as on the main table or on the extension table - I have never geared up to use the extension table. I do all of mine using the miter track on the left side of the table top insert with the disk to the left of the table.
On some short blade chisels, the guide does not work but I think that is probably obvious and is not the point of your question.
If you want to work on the extension table and you have a copy of PTWFE, there are plans there for a jig that facilitates using the extension table.
I know this has not been much help because I don't know exactly what problems you are experiencing.
http://www.shopsmith.com/academy/latheturning/index.htm
http://www.shopsmith.com/academy/sharpe ... thechisels
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:38 pm
by fjimp
Bayside Bob,
Welcome sir you are in excellent company. I have taken all of the steps you outlined and attended a shopsmith Traveling Academy, still successfully using the sharpening system has consistently alluded me. I have two sharpening systems I use regulary with excellent success. The wolverine system is great. I like it primarily because their website has tutorials that make short work of learning to sharpen. The recent introduction of the Work Sharp 3000 system takes sharpening to "Scary Sharp" as Dusty puts it, a simple reality. The shop smith system looks good but for this simple minded fellow is illusive to understand. Jim
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:48 pm
by baysidebob
Dusty thanks for quick response. What you posted actually did help. I have and engagement that I have to run off to this evening, will try to give more information about what my problem is tomorrow. I will be back. Think someone well know said that in a movie........
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:23 am
by rdewinter
BaysideBob,
I have the SS sharpening system and use it with fairly good success. I say that because I've never used another system.
I mount my guide on the extension table in the left SS mount (to the left of the headstock), I mount my disc sander on the top left shaft of the headstock. Move the headstock to about 1/4" from the ext table. Sharpen away!!! This setup allows me turn and sharpen at the same time. The only drawback is if you are spindle turning and need the tail stock. In this case, you need to slide the headstock back and forth from the turning to the guide and sometimes remount your turning piece.
The challenge I face is keeping the chisel flat in the guide grooves, especially the skew. The other challenge is getting a complete steady turn on the gouge. It takes practice.
What I haven''t figured out yet is how to sharpen the round nose bowl gouge using that guide.
Bob
San Diego
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:15 am
by a1gutterman
baysidebob wrote:Dusty thanks for quick response. What you posted actually did help. I have and engagement that I have to run off to this evening, will try to give more information about what my problem is tomorrow. I will be back. Think someone well know said that in a movie........
Close! What the Governator said was, "I'll be back".
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:24 am
by BigSky
a1gutterman wrote:Close! What the Governator said was, "I'll be back".
Or was it -- "I shall return".
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:11 pm
by a1gutterman
BigSky wrote:Or was it -- "I shall return".
That quote was MacArthur, so I guess you will have to ask Bob who he meant.

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:27 pm
by baysidebob
a1gutterman wrote:That quote was MacArthur, so I guess you will have to ask Bob who he meant.

I was actually thinking of the Governor of the sorry state of California. Oh wait that is the one I live and work in. So maybe that allows me the right to make that statement. As had been said many times on this forum, we should all be able to express our opinions.....
SS sharpening system
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:36 pm
by joedw00
rdewinter wrote:BaysideBob,
I have the SS sharpening system and use it with fairly good success. I say that because I've never used another system.
I mount my guide on the extension table in the left SS mount (to the left of the headstock), I mount my disc sander on the top left shaft of the headstock. Move the headstock to about 1/4" from the ext table. Sharpen away!!! This setup allows me turn and sharpen at the same time. The only drawback is if you are spindle turning and need the tail stock. In this case, you need to slide the headstock back and forth from the turning to the guide and sometimes remount your turning piece.
The challenge I face is keeping the chisel flat in the guide grooves, especially the skew. The other challenge is getting a complete steady turn on the gouge. It takes practice.
What I haven''t figured out yet is how to sharpen the round nose bowl gouge using that guide.
Bob
San Diego
Is there any way you could post a picture? I was born in Missouri, so I need to be shown.

I have tried and tried to use the SS sharpening system, but just can not get it.
Thanks