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Winter qlue question

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:07 pm
by kd6vpe
First off Merry Christmas to all,
We got a ton of snow last night I have been spending the entire day shoveling out the driveway to the road. I have a question about glue. Everything froze last night including the glue that I had left in the shop. I this glue bad now that it has frozen. I brought it in to the house and it has since thoughed out but I am not sure if it is till good.
Thank you and Merry Christmas.

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:20 pm
by a1gutterman
kd6vpe wrote:First off Merry Christmas to all,
We got a ton of snow last night I have been spending the entire day shoveling out the driveway to the road. I have a question about glue. Everything froze last night including the glue that I had left in the shop. I this glue bad now that it has frozen. I brought it in to the house and it has since thoughed out but I am not sure if it is till good.
Thank you and Merry Christmas.
Can knot say. Does it have a warning against freezing? Can you go to the manufacturers web site and find out? Can you test the glue on a couple of scrap pieces of wood? If the glue "looks" now like it did before it froze, the chances are good that it is oakay. I wood try it out on scrap today and see if it holds tomorrow.

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:17 pm
by mickyd
I'm with Tim. Check the manufacturers website or bottle precautions. Reputable manufactureres will discuss that specifically. I keep my superglues (aka CA glue or cyanoacrylate) in the freezer all the time. It extends shelf life from about 3 years to indefinite.

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:05 pm
by kalynzoo
First I must say I cannot fathom the question. Cold enough to freeze glue????
OMG (whatever that means).
My daughter-in-law who used to live in Moorhead tells me her dad kept the shop supplies in the cold storage basement during the winter. Also a concept beyond my comprehension.
Guess I would test the glue on scrap wood and/or contact Titebond or whoever.
I do know that woodglue sets much faster in temps over 100.
Merry Christmas from Sunny California. :D

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:13 pm
by kalynzoo
First I must say I cannot fathom the question. Cold enough to freeze glue????
OMG (whatever that means).
My daughter-in-law who used to live in Moorhead tells me her dad kept the shop supplies in the cold storage basement during the winter. Also a concept beyond my comprehension.
Guess I would test the glue on scrap wood and/or contact Titebond or whoever.
I do know that woodglue sets much faster in temps over 100.
Merry Christmas from Sunny California. :D

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:25 pm
by 8iowa
Most yellow glues like Elmer's and Titebond are water based. I would get some new glue. When you consider the time, effort, and materials in a project, the cost of the glue is insignificant.

My workshop in the U.P. definitely gets below freezing, for many days at a time. I keep all freeze sensitive materials on one shelf. Then, when I close up in the Fall they all go into a box and then down into the basement of our house, along with canned foods and other things from the kitchen. We have yet to have a freeze problem down there.

Meanwhile, here in Gainesville, Christmas day, it got up to 72 degrees.

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:34 pm
by mickyd
Titebonds website indicates that their woodworking glues are freeze / thaw stable.

Elmer's doesn't address it (or for that matter, any technical specs):(

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:51 pm
by cincinnati
Glue can go through a few freezes before it is unusable. When wood glue gets cold it kinda turns chalky. Never seemed to affect its strength. BUT..... If my glue freezes I buy new. Glue is cheap so why risk a project falling apart. In a project the wood can cost $300 but skimp on a new bottle of glue for $2.49????

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 11:45 pm
by paul269
You don’t mention the type of glue.
I keep CA glue in the refrigerator to extend the life. Low humidity/moisture prevents CA glue from curing. So freezing CA glue is good not bad. Just bring it back up to temp prior to use.

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:46 am
by kd6vpe
Thank you all,
And I did forget to mention that is its titeband II. I will take your advise and buy somemore. On the titebond bottle it does say keep from freezing that is why I asked the question. I appreciate all of your advise as usual. I am building another rocking horse and really did not want to take a chance that somethng could break loose with a little one on it.