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"New 10ER" help with rivets

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:49 am
by shipwright
While home in Canada for Christmas I happened upon a 10ER that needed a new home. I'll post more including Photos when I finish the spruce up. For now my question is can I remove the name plate rivets without destroying them or damaging the plate? I think this may be a pre-die cast sand casting because there is no access hole behind the plate... solid cast - and the casting surface appears to be sand cast texture. It would be nice for painting to be able to remove the plate but I dont want to ruin the plate or the rivets. The lower rivet also obscures the serial # which is R 38253 or 39253... the rivet covers the bottom of the 8 /9. I believe this places its bithhday somewhere in 1950 .

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:12 pm
by mickyd
shipwright wrote:While home in Canada for Christmas I happened upon a 10ER that needed a new home. I'll post more including Photos when I finish the spruce up. For now my question is can I remove the name plate rivets without destroying them or damaging the plate? .......
The fasteners are called "U-drive screws". Bottom one is easy to remove and top one required a little creativity due to limited space to work but also comes out easy. They push out from the inside of the headstock. Go to post 50 and 51 of my ER resto threadto see how I did it.

Good luck with the ol' girl.

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:48 pm
by shipwright
Thanks Mike
I could have sworn I looked at all your restoration posts. I guess I missed one. Still wondering about the origin of the casting.
Paul

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:51 pm
by JPG
shipwright wrote:Thanks Mike
I could have sworn I looked at all your restoration posts. I guess I missed one. Still wondering about the origin of the casting.
Paul
Although the aluminum Mark 5 came in two versions(early sand cast, and later die cast), the 10 e/r is cast iron. I am not aware it was anything but sand cast nor could it be.

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:12 pm
by shipwright
Thanks JPG
I got the info about the casting types from Nick's commernt in this thread

http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthr ... ial+number

Paul