Is this a Shopsmith part?

paulrussell · Post by **paulrussell** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:35 pm

I bought a sort of "Shopsmith Grab Bag" on ebay, which included a Ring Master, an iron-table Shopsmith bandsaw, a 500 saw table extension, sanding disk, a 500 table with sawguards, a couple blades, arbors, lathe tool rest, 500 miter, 500 fence, a legless extension table, a couple badly rusted lathe chisels and this:

Is this part of a Shopsmith or just a piece of metal that got thown onto the pile?

Add-on question - among the parts is an old steel 28-tooth "Shopsmith" saw blade. Is there any reasonable use for something like this in this world of carbide tip blades?

SDSSmith · Post by **SDSSmith** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:52 pm

From what I can see (metal hanging vertically in front of a wide 500 extension table), it does not look like any Shopsmith part that I have seen before.

paulrussell · Post by **paulrussell** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:59 pm

I didn't think so -- to be honest it just seemed too flimsy to be anything Shopsmith.

robinson46176 · Post by **robinson46176** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:52 pm

paulrussell wrote:Add-on question - among the parts is an old steel 28-tooth "Shopsmith" saw blade. Is there any reasonable use for something like this in this world of carbide tip blades?

I have accumulated an unbelievable number of steel saw blades over the years and I have no qualms about using a good sharp one (civilization did really exist and thrive before carbide).
I considered ordering a case of quartz battery clock movements and making saw blade clocks...

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BTW, I don't recognize that part either.
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wlhayesmfs · Post by **wlhayesmfs** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:07 pm

Well if Farmer doesn't know what it is with his wide and vast collection of hammer, saw, hatchets etc. I guess we might never know what you got in that box of extras. LOL
Hope you are doing well Farmer, right now I am trying to clean up the garage shop and look for work. But still making sawdust in the meantime.

paulrussell · Post by **paulrussell** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:58 pm

robinson46176 wrote:I have accumulated an unbelievable number of steel saw blades over the years and I have no qualms about using a good sharp one (civilization did really exist and thrive before carbide).
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Well I don't know if this is a good one, but I doubt it is sharp - so a better question would be are they worth having sharpened?

BTW the bandsaw is in much better shape than I could have imagined given how bad it looked inside & out. I think a bit of oil & a blade are all it needs - with the exception of mounting tubes.
I read on one thread that the offset tubes are terrible - is it better to use straight tubes?

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:07 pm

paulrussell wrote:Well I don't know if this is a good one, but I doubt it is sharp - so a better question would be are they worth having sharpened?

BTW the bandsaw is in much better shape than I could have imagined given how bad it looked inside & out. I think a bit of oil & a blade are all it needs - with the exception of mounting tubes.
I read on one thread that the offset tubes are terrible - is it better to use straight tubes?

I don't think you can set up to work on the Mark V without using the offset tubes (eccentrics); it is an alignment issue.

cml · Post by **cml** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:16 pm

[quote="dusty"]I don't think you can set up to work on the Mark V without using the offset tubes (eccentrics)]

I have straight tubes on my '58 greenie with a gold bandsaw and it fits just fine. You use the collets on the long tubes to align the saw vertically. My spindle horizontal alignment was dead on.

I had to use the eccentric tubes for the bandsaw with a power stand, but only because they are shorter.

charlese · Post by **charlese** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:22 pm

I think Paul meant the offset eccentrics - part no 555626. ($40.44) These are the ones that allow lifting the SS to verticle without removing the bandsaw.

The origional eccentric tubes are part no. 5137779 @ $17.72

Paul there's nothing really wrong with the expensive ones. They allow the bandsaw to wobble a little as some report. However they would be handy if doing verticle drilling and bandsawing on the same piece.

SDSSmith · Post by **SDSSmith** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:34 pm

charlese wrote:The origional eccentric tubes are part no. 5137779 @ $17.72

Paul there's nothing really wrong with the expensive ones. They allow the bandsaw to wobble a little as some report. However they would be handy if doing verticle drilling and bandsawing on the same piece.

The back to front alignment of the drive hubs can be done with the socket head screw mounted in the headrest under the tie bar, though I prefer the original eccentric tubes (513779?) for aligning the tools.You can lift the Mark V in to vertical mode with the original eccentric tubes if your bandsaw has the cast iron table. I always set the offset of the eccentric away from the Mark V as my starting point for aligning the tool to the headstock.
I had a set of the expensive, fancy ones and there was way too much flex for my liking. Sold them....