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What year is my SS?

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:52 am
by grs1938
I'm doing repairs to the SS I've had about 10 years and have hardly ever used. I'm finding some great differences in models and replacement parts. There is NO serial number on the head stock. It has a 3/4 HP motor, a gilmer belt drive and is a "pussy cat gray" in color with a semismooth finish. Some of what I have gleaned from this forum is that after 1962 the motor was a 1 1/8 HP. Unless someone has painted it it's not a goldie.

I would take pictures but it is buried under other projects in the garage and is in the drill press position. I'm also hoping to take a trip to Hawaii tomorrow or later in the week and thought I'd get this thread started.

George in Northern California

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:37 am
by dusty
[quote="grs1938"]I'm doing repairs to the SS I've had about 10 years and have hardly ever used. I'm finding some great differences in models and replacement parts. There is NO serial number on the head stock. It has a 3/4 HP motor, a gilmer belt drive and is a "pussy cat gray" in color with a semismooth finish. Some of what I have gleaned from this forum is that after 1962 the motor was a 1 1/8 HP. Unless someone has painted it it's not a goldie.

I would take pictures but it is buried under other projects in the garage and is in the drill press position. I'm also hoping to take a trip to Hawaii tomorrow or later in the week and thought I'd get this thread started. Shopsmith parts tend to be very interchangeable.]
Quote: I'm finding some great differences in models and replacement parts.

A disturbing statement which makes me immediately think "Clone". I hope I am wrong. Until you are able to provide more detailed info about all I can say assuming it is not a clone is a pre 1960 model 500.

The following chart is the only basis for this statement.
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/faq/markv.htm

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:50 pm
by mickyd
A ShopSmith would be a pre 60's 'Greenie'.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:28 pm
by JPG
mickyd wrote:A ShopSmith would be a pre 60's 'Greenie'.
Or early Goldie. Pix of 'other' features would help determine when. Gilmer narrows it to the Greenie/early goldie vintage.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:10 pm
by mickyd
JPG40504 wrote:Or early Goldie. Pix of 'other' features would help determine when. Gilmer narrows it to the Greenie/early goldie vintage.
Goldie til what year?

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:46 pm
by JPG
mickyd wrote:Goldie til what year?
No later than spring 1963(that was when I purchased my poly-v,1 1/8hp Goldie new).

I believe the poly-v and 1 1/8hp motor model change occurred in 1962.

Not sure, but it may also have coincided with Magna American startup.


Eastern Gray: Who manufactured your original gilmer goldie?

See post #11 this thread!

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:12 am
by dusty
Speaking of the Shopsmith evolution, do we know that when a new model was introduced that production of previous models discontinued OR was there some overlap.

Could I buy a NEW 510 today?

Update to my SS

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:09 pm
by grs1938
I found a serial number. It's 351979 and located on the headstock cover which I could not see since it is in the drill press position and the cover was help up by a clamp while I worked on replacing the drive belt. Built Nov/Dec 1957. I apologize --It's apparently a greenie after all.

George

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:35 pm
by SDSSmith
dusty wrote:Speaking of the Shopsmith evolution, do we know that when a new model was introduced that production of previous models discontinued OR was there some overlap.

Could I buy a NEW 510 today?
Yes, for only $3299 plus shipping.....http://www.shopsmith.com/markvsite/purchaseNB.htm

But for only $600, Power Pro, 520 Fence with direct read scales and Mark 7 stand.

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:53 am
by dusty
SDSSmith wrote:Yes, for only $3299 plus shipping.....http://www.shopsmith.com/markvsite/purchaseNB.htm

But for only $600, Power Pro, 520 Fence with direct read scales and Mark 7 stand.
Thank you, rob. There is a lot more information here than I was previously aware of. Why? Because I tend not to scroll down. Maybe I have learned better.