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A headstock vs B headstock

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:35 am
by JPG
As an aid to those lacking in 'historical' knowledge of early headstock versions I submit the following:

The earlier "A" headstock was a sand casting and is both heavier(thicker wall etc.) and rougher.

In the pix below the "A" is on the left and the "B" is to the right.
A B HEADSTOCK REAR.jpg
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Starting at the rear, notice the lack of a tapped hole at the top of the idler shaft hole.

Notice the heavier different shaped lower web bridge.

Notice the larger size of the idler shaft eccentric clamping ears and the flash surrounding them.

A B HEADSTOCK FRONT SIDE.jpg
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Moving to the 'operator' side there are several differences.

The most obvious one is the shape of the speed control mounting hole.

Notice the power switch mounting area. The "B" is recessed.

The "A" has the top of the speed control 'circle' cut away. The "A" used a push plate to provide a 'stop' at saw-joint speed. The plate must be depressed to increase the speed higher. That is the reason for the 'groove' on the back of the indicator dial. The "B" added the small 'anti-rattle' spring which gives slight tactile feedback when increasing the speed past that point.

Notice the larger bosses at the quill shaft and lock bores.

Notice the belt cover attachment screws are tapped directly into the "A" and a seat for a tinnerman clip on the "B".

Also notice an additional belt cover mounting screw. There are 8 screws on the "A", but only 2 on the "B".

Finally the "B" has two areas 'cut away' in the drive belt area.


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A B HEADSTOCK BACK SIDE.jpg
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The most obvious thing on the back side is the access hole in the "B" where the medallion mounts.

Again the bosses are larger, and the belt cover screws etc.

The cutaway areas again differ.

The recess under the quill stop etc. is more sloped on the "B".

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A B HEADSTOCK FRONT.jpg
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Not much differing on the front, but the width of the raised (seam?).

The top 'seam' is also wider on the "A".

A Headstock vs B headstock (continued)

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:36 am
by JPG
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The wide seam(?) continues across the top of the "A"and the quill anti-rotation half dog screw hole has a wide round boss around it on the "B".

Again the cutaway areas on the "B".

As a side point of interest, notice the retaining ring in the "B" at the front of the main bearing bore. This ring is the same as the one retaining the back end. The "A" has a pair also, but none in the pix.


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Finally the inside, bottom has similar differences.

Yes those are spider cocoons. These are stored outside at present.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:04 am
by wiredone
Thanks for that history lesson, I do so loves me some history!
Because of the heavier casting on the A models would they tend to vibrate less?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:23 am
by JPG
wiredone wrote:Thanks for that history lesson, I do so loves me some history!
Because of the heavier casting on the A models would they tend to vibrate less?
I think they 'resonate' less!;)

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:15 pm
by wiredone
Resonate is a much better description, thanks.

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:00 pm
by charlese
Thanks, Red! Always wondered; just what are all the differences.

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:03 am
by idcook
Thanks GG (JPG),

That was a great eye-opener. Definitely a thread I'll study until it becomes ready knowledge that I recall before making any future purchases.

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:24 am
by joedw00
Thanks JPG had wondered what the difference was.

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:19 am
by jamescaxton
I do so loves me some history!

Re: A Headstock vs B headstock (continued)

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:35 am
by everettdavis
JPG wrote:[attach]14439[/attach]

The wide seam(?) continues across the top of the "A"and the quill anti-rotation half dog screw hole has a wide round boss around it on the "B".

Again the cutaway areas on the "B".

As a side point of interest, notice the retaining ring in the "B" at the front of the main bearing bore. This ring is the same as the one retaining the back end. The "A" has a pair also, but none in the pix.


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Finally the inside, bottom has similar differences.

Yes those are spider cocoons. These are stored outside at present.
I have an 'A' Series Headstock, with no top seam at all. Have you ever seen one without any seam on top other than this one?
Early A Series Headstock with no Top Seam.jpg
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