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new soon to be owner
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:10 pm
by retired00
Hello,
In the late '70's I bought a new Mark V. The kids came and so the toys went.
The kids are GONE, I'm retired, and have limited space for a shop. I need some info as it's been awhile. The "in progress" shop has a low ceiling. When the Mark V is in drill press position, what is the total height from tip to floor?
There are a few on CL that I want to look at in close proximity to me, there are more within 2 hrs. drive time that seem like REALLY good deals (Mark V complete w/jointer, band saw and belt sander) $500!!!
How difficult is a power unit rebuild? eBay has a guy that will do it for a fee (reasonable). I'm jumping the gun as I don't have a unit YET, but I will.
Any info appreciated
Tony
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:51 pm
by JPG
retired00 wrote:Hello,
In the late '70's I bought a new Mark V. The kids came and so the toys went.
The kids are GONE, I'm retired, and have limited space for a shop. I need some info as it's been awhile. The "in progress" shop has a low ceiling. When the Mark V is in drill press position, what is the total height from tip to floor?
There are a few on CL that I want to look at in close proximity to me, there are more within 2 hrs. drive time that seem like REALLY good deals (Mark V complete w/jointer, band saw and belt sander) $500!!!
How difficult is a power unit rebuild? eBay has a guy that will do it for a fee (reasonable). I'm jumping the gun as I don't have a unit YET, but I will.
Any info appreciated
Tony
77" should clear!:rolleyes:
An interesting place to 'start' -
http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Archives/SS121/SS121_Shopsmith_Reborn_Pt1.htm Part 1 of 3 and much much more!:)
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:03 pm
by retired00
GREAT, I have plenty of room.
Thanks for the link. I'm sure I will have more questions.
I remember one thing that irritated me was I could not square up the table to the blade and have it stay. Any suggestions? Is the Incra fence worth the $$$$?
Tony
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:28 pm
by JPG
retired00 wrote:GREAT, I have plenty of room.
Thanks for the link. I'm sure I will have more questions.
I remember one thing that irritated me was I could not square up the table to the blade and have it stay. Any suggestions? Is the Incra fence worth the $$$$?
Tony
If the table is 'wandering', no fence will correct that.
Well
maybe if the Incra is attached to the 'rock solid' extension table! That may be self-contradictory!:D
I have not experienced that, but I believe the larger tables(505 - 20) would be more stable(wider stance(trunion and table mount)).
You will find table alignment in one of those saw dust sessions.

Do go 'exploring'!
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:31 pm
by retired00
I will, Thanks.
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:02 pm
by dusty
retired00 wrote:GREAT, I have plenty of room.
Thanks for the link. I'm sure I will have more questions.
I remember one thing that irritated me was I could not square up the table to the blade and have it stay. Any suggestions? Is the Incra fence worth the $$$$?
Tony
I do not believe you will ever get a Mark V or a Mark 7 to setup "rock solid". The way this animal is built, rock solid does not happen. However, that being said, I believe that you can get 1/32" and better accuracy from the Mark V.
I contend that the table alignments can be done easily using a .005" tolerance standard.
I hardly ever move my Mark V so that does make it a bit more stable than if I was dropping it down on wheels and rolling it around all the time. But I love my Shopsmith and I believe it will perform as a hobby machine as well as any made.
It is NOT a professional heavy duty production machine. I do not mill heavy materials (3"-4") with expectations of highly accurate results.
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:32 pm
by retired00
Dusty,
I found a MV that the owner said he bought in '80. What does that mean vs 500, 510,520? I think I read where the quil only has 1 bearing on some models. eBay has upgrades. Send a link if possible to the info I need. There are many for sale near me and I want to know the differences.
I will use this MAINLY for knife making and some minor jigs etc. I will buy a bandsaw, and will use the disk sander, drill press and maybe horiz. boring and the lathe if I can figure out how. So for now, the table saw won't be used much.
Tony
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:51 pm
by JPG
A '500' is the same as the older Mark 5 made by predecessor manufacturers.
A 505 has a larger worktable and a larger extension table and a different rip fence.
A 510 has additional 'floating tables and connecting tubes etc. The table rails are round tubes. There are two different versions with relatively minor differences (unless you mix parts beteeen them).
A 520 has box shaped rails and a more robust rip fence.
Other than the differences(tables, rail, fences) they are identical. They can still be UPgraded today, albiet expensively.
The 2 bearing quill was introduced after the 510 was created, so a 510 might be either. UPgrade still available!
All thing equal,(physical condition etc.) a 520 - 510 - 500 would be preferable in that order.
A little history might help:
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/toolhistory.htm
P.S. A 1980 would have started life as a '500', but could have been upgraded.
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:00 pm
by retired00
Thanks for the info and the history link, very helpful. I need to get some of the CL owners to send the serial # so I can date them.
Thanks
Tony
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:08 pm
by fjimp
Welcome to the forum. I am attaching a link that will compare the 520 with the power pro and 510 models of Mark V.
http://www.shopsmith.com/markvsite/specifications_3.htm
I have owned both 510 and 520 Mark V and now have a Power Pro Mark 7. I loved my Mark V 520 and am thrilled to have updated it to the Mark 7 Power Pro. I personally found the 510 guides lacking and upgraded the 510 to a 520. Jim